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  1. tom roberts
    tom roberts
    February 16, 2010 at 6:48 am | | Reply


    Good points but Santa Cruz comes from Paraguey.

    1. The Gaffer
      February 16, 2010 at 7:01 am | | Reply


      Tom, good catch. Now fixed.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  2. Sean Keenan
    Sean Keenan
    February 16, 2010 at 7:57 am | | Reply


    We will see how enthusiastic the Americans are when they find out about citehs rich Arab owners, this is a ridiculous article. Given that all of Citys “massive” fanbase is in stockport and they didnt even fill the gound against stoke in the FA cup……..oh wait now they have global appeal, furthermore if you think City are playing attractive football you are out of your mind.

    Pure nonsense

    1. The Three Lions
      The Three Lions
      February 16, 2010 at 8:22 am | | Reply


      To be fair the FA cup is no longer that popular now in England. Certainly not for the bigger clubs anyway. Plus that game was live on ITV1 (a free channel in England). If i was a city fan I probably would have stayed home or gone to the pub to watch it rather than paying £40 to go and watch city vs stoke in the FA cup.
      Plus it’s all relative, the stadium might have been half full but that stadium holds close to 50,000. Americans would probably be high fiving if they got 25,000 to one of their matches.
      This was the 4th round of a cup that I’m sorry to say no longer matters in the eyes of many English fans. It’s all about getting top four and playing Champions League against the best in the world

    2. Husker Blu
      Husker Blu
      February 16, 2010 at 8:32 am | | Reply


      Yeah….a lot of supporters all the way from Stockport….as opposed to mayoo’s who are from Surrey, Swindon and Singapore…

      To quote the Stone Roses’ classic…” The past was yours, but the futures’ mine” Get used to it…..

      CTID
      (From Newton Heath, btw)

  3. Sean Keenan
    Sean Keenan
    February 16, 2010 at 8:09 am | | Reply


    Ps the red marks on the Tevez picture headlining this article were done by Manchester United fans maybe you should change it to one that has not been vandalised…as you can see they have not even conquered Manchester

  4. RayO
    RayO
    February 16, 2010 at 8:34 am | | Reply


    Actually I became a fan of Chelsea after watching them play in Pittsburgh…I think Drogba scored his first goal for the Blues here. I don’t know if Man City could sell out the way Chelsea has in the past, but there would be no better time than right after the World Cup.

  5. Hardybarlow
    Hardybarlow
    February 16, 2010 at 8:46 am | | Reply


    Sean, stop being a tit.

    What is it with you stretford bellends and bloody attendances? I’m sure it comes from times when you won FA and Liverpool were cleaning up (Nowt else to crow about). As you are clearly a boring tool, go and look up Juve attendances…..are they now a small club?

    I’ll agree that our arab connection could be a problem in America, which is a shame. With the amount of arab support for Streford, I suppose this is the reason they avoid pre season trips to America and head for Asia time and again.

    With regards to the Tevez poster…..Taggart wound up, job done. Next.

  6. Richard The Red (Devil)
    Richard The Red (Devil)
    February 16, 2010 at 8:57 am | | Reply


    33 years and counting.

    1. Joe Shorrocks
      Joe Shorrocks
      February 16, 2010 at 9:29 am | | Reply


      Yep. Still here.

  7. skpd
    skpd
    February 16, 2010 at 10:09 am | | Reply


    ESPN2HD aired a lot of Manchester City matches from the EPL in HD this season. Chelsea was also on ESPN2HD pretty often while Manchester United’s first match in HD will be this coming weekend.

    I’ve got to see Manchester City at work a lot because of that and learn they are a team to watch. Their football is pretty free flowing and Bellamy and Tevez are great footballers.

    I, for one, became a fan of The Blues this season and I agree that a little bit of marketing on their part can make them a brand name. The quality is definitelly there, they just need to advertise themselves better (a Champions League spot next season would also help tremenduosly)

  8. Tony
    Tony
    February 16, 2010 at 10:26 am | | Reply


    I have to disagree with the article. Will they have the potential to match a Chelsea in the US i doubt it. 1) They aren’t successful maybe that will change this year but 1 year doesn’t make a trend. 2) they will suffer the stigma that has surrounded the reason why Chelsea isn’t embraced more. The fact that they went out and bought a tram and have gobs of money. I find most people are put off by clubs,people etc.. that just buy their way out of a problem or into a problem.

  9. Fan
    Fan
    February 16, 2010 at 10:26 am | | Reply


    “A history of playing in the states” maybe, but how will matches from 30-40 years ago have any impact on this summer?

    1. The Gaffer
      February 16, 2010 at 10:32 am | | Reply


      Fan, the soccer fans who supported NASL in the States, I believe, have a soft touch for Manchester City, so City’s hard work in the 70s and early 80s will be remembered by many who line up to buy tickets to see the club play in America this summer (hopefully).

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  10. John
    John
    February 16, 2010 at 11:02 am | | Reply


    always mentioning MLS eh?

    of course it doesn’t compare – stop being Mr. Obvious.

    But I guess we do need a new MLS basher now that Karthik is gone.

    1. The Gaffer
      February 16, 2010 at 11:09 am | | Reply


      Sorry John, I didn’t realize I was forbidden from mentioning MLS unless I say only positive things about the league. Seriously, I’m a big advocate of MLS, but there are significant advantages that the Premier League and EPL clubs have over MLS even in the United States.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  11. csb059
    csb059
    February 16, 2010 at 11:21 am | | Reply


    Became a football fan and Manchester City fan several years ago when the wife and I ran into two couples from Manchester on vacation. Saw their enthusiasm for the game/team and gave it another shot (American versions of the sport have always been so watered down talent-wise I judged the sport boring to watch in the past). I have been hooked every since. I hope you’re right about this Gaffer.

    Also as fan I don’t care if my team “buys it’s way” to success. Attendance and payroll are irrelevant when talking about fan base and “who’s better”. It’s chanpionship hardware. Who gives a crap that Cubs sellout every game when the Sox won a recent Championship (and this comes from a diehard Cubs fan). Man Utd fans can crow all they want about the silverware they’ve earned and rightfully so, but statements about attendance to matches and “they’re buying their way to the top” are silly and unrelevant.

  12. Eddie
    Eddie
    February 16, 2010 at 11:23 am | | Reply


    I don’t see why they can’t. However, they have to challenge for European football every year, or at least a string of years. If they add a couple of Americans, they definitely will win over fans here in the states. Has anyone not noticed how popular Fulham is here. I know several people who became man City fans because of Claudio Reyna. The sport still has a lot of growth potential in the US, and there’s no reason to assume clubs outside of the “big 4″ couldn’t become very popular here.

  13. man99utd
    man99utd
    February 16, 2010 at 11:44 am | | Reply


    I can’t stand City, but they can take advantage of the WC if the play their cards right. I for one am disappointed by United’s refusal to come over more often. So it would be another chance for City to stick it to us. As others have stated without CL play they will not succeed in their American designs. People can say what they like but if the MLS were as good as what some like to think their would be no reason for others to seek quality elsewhere.

  14. OleGunnar20
    OleGunnar20
    February 16, 2010 at 12:26 pm | | Reply


    you have to be off your rocker?!? first of all Man Utd, followed closely by Chelsea, Liverpud and Aresenal have the most US fans because they have been the most successful clubs since the inception of the Premiership. Everton/Fulham are beloved because of the USMNT players they have. i mean seriously shCity fans, get over yourself. One season fighting for 4th spot and you are jizzing all over yourselves about “being as big as Man Utd”. Come back in a decade with 2-3 Prem titles and at least one CL title and we can talk. In the 18 years of the PL Man Utd hasn’t finished lower than 3rd …. shCity weren’t even in the the PL for 5 of the 18 years! So the blue half of Manchester should take a deep breath, grasp firmly hold of reality and chill the f*ck out with the “we’re going to be as big as Man Utd” nonsense … maybe in a decade or two things might have changed with all of that terrori … uh i mean, oil money but for now breath deeply on your history of complete suckitude.

    1. csb059
      csb059
      February 16, 2010 at 1:10 pm | | Reply


      Who in the comment thread every stated “we’re going to be as big as Man Utd”? Maybe you “should take a deep breath, grasp firmly hold of reality and chill the f*ck out” and re-read the commentary before you type comments like this OleGunnar.

  15. Angry Trey
    February 16, 2010 at 12:31 pm | | Reply


    You cant just play one match in NYC and expect to build your brand. They would need to do a tour like Chelsea did last summer with stops in multiple cities.

  16. Brian
    Brian
    February 16, 2010 at 12:37 pm | | Reply


    If any club has embraced the youthful, new American support of football in recent years, it’s Chelsea by far.

    City would have a lot of ground to make up, not only in attracting supporters, but putting together a squad capable of winning and filling it with English-speaking superstars. Who on City is a brand name that speaks good English and is recognized like Terry and Lampard?

  17. BBC
    BBC
    February 16, 2010 at 2:44 pm | | Reply


    New EPL fan and a City fan

    - Because of Reyna
    -Don’t want to support the top 4
    -As Chicago White Sox fan who is sick of all the tourists that support the team on the North Side, I have empathy for the City supporters
    -They attack
    -Uniforms are pretty

    1. pretty uniforms?
      pretty uniforms?
      February 16, 2010 at 3:40 pm | | Reply


      Wow…

      1. Huh
        Huh
        February 16, 2010 at 4:40 pm | | Reply


        Well surely that’s better than ‘they win trophies’ like many a plastic glory hunter on here! and their uniforms are very pretty.

      2. sarcasm is used by the dim
        sarcasm is used by the dim
        February 16, 2010 at 8:09 pm | | Reply


        lowest form of wit , thats what they say.

  18. Thomas
    Thomas
    February 16, 2010 at 4:31 pm | | Reply


    Yes City can do it.

    But it will be difficult. The big 4 are generally the most popular clubs in America. Most kids end up picking one of them as their club.

    Had someone come in to work from Derby. We discussed the EPL. He was shocked when I told him I support Everton. Saying I was the first American he had met who didn’t support one of the big 4.

  19. Manchester is Red
    Manchester is Red
    February 16, 2010 at 5:24 pm | | Reply


    add this to the rumour that Manchester United may be touring america this summer and you may have the Manchester derby in our own back yard!!!

    this is how it feels to be citeh,this is how it feels to be small. this is how it feels when your team wins nothing at all…nothing at all. Feck off back to stockport, Manchester is Red!

    1. Stu
      Stu
      March 9, 2010 at 8:27 am | | Reply


      Wait, no. An American Utd supporter at least 3000 miles away telling City fans to fuck off to a town adjacent to Manchester and telling us what our own city is? This is epic titdom.

      Manchester born, Manchester bred. I was born 2 blocks away from Maine Road, Manchester.
      Not Old Trafford, Salford

  20. wayne norris
    wayne norris
    February 16, 2010 at 5:29 pm | | Reply


    are you taking the piss with the alan ball in the list

    1. The Gaffer
      February 16, 2010 at 8:50 pm | | Reply


      Hi Wayne, not taking the piss. Alan Ball managed City but didn’t play for the club. But still, he played in the NASL.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  21. Tim
    Tim
    February 16, 2010 at 9:06 pm | | Reply


    Man City is a melting pot, it has many nations on the squad, except America.

    1. wayne norris
      wayne norris
      March 16, 2010 at 3:47 am | | Reply


      if you saw Alan Ball manage city you would have thought he was taking the piss

  22. mintox
    mintox
    February 16, 2010 at 9:07 pm | | Reply


    In it’s purest form it’s an attempt by the clubs to sucker in people who have no interest in their club to support them and purchase their merchandise so they can make more money.

    Just because Chelsea and Manchester United toured the US to packed houses doesn’t make it a success. Football fans will come out to watch big games against famous teams, it doesn’t necessarily mean they will convert to supporting them.

    Earlier this year Wolves, Celtic and Fulham toured Australia to very big crowds but I doubt a single person who didn’t already support those clubs, would have begun to support them after that. For many of us who are ex-pats or locals who support other premier league clubs, it was a chance to watch a team from a better league take on some of our local players.

    I would suggest it would be the same in the US. People will come to see how their team goes against local teams. They’re already football fans and will no doubt already have a team that they follow from the Premier League.

  23. SoCalMike
    SoCalMike
    February 16, 2010 at 9:47 pm | | Reply


    As an American residing just outside Los Angeles, I can tell you that Manchester City has some following here, but nothing on the scale of Manchester United or Chelsea. My son is a big Man United fan, he’s got their gear and memorabilia hanging throughout his room. I was a Chelsea fan, but since Everton has signed Landon I’ve become a big Everton booster.

    Manchester City though is liked, but not as one of the favorite squads. I notice that the soccer fans I’ve spoken to about the EPL, there isn’t much of a strict alliance in many people, as they really aren’t geographically linked to a team for instance. I think Americans like the EPL much like Brits watch NFL football, we like to watch the games but aren’t obsessed with watching a particular team versus just wanting to watch soccer at the highest level.

    That being said, if Manchester City can square up against some good competition they will sell out. AC Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona from the other European leagues along with the EPL teams that have been names have all done real well, Manchester City should also. There are a lot of expat’s from throughout the world here in the states, that is why these summer tours have succeeded. If Manchester City matches up against the L.A. Galaxy, count me in to attend it…

  24. Husker Blu
    Husker Blu
    February 17, 2010 at 5:19 am | | Reply


    OleGunnar20……if you had any clue as to the history behind the two clubs, you would know that manyoo’s dominance to such an extent is a fairly recent thing. For most of the two clubs existance, they were pretty evenly matched, and a couple of times City even eclipsed United as the dominant team. Manyoo relied on City’s generosity at allowing them to play at Maine Road after old trafford was bombed in the war. #
    In those days, many people watched both teams alternate weeks. the Munich disaster gained them much sympathy (that they have shamelessly milked ever since) and national/international support in the aftermath.
    This support, plus some very unscroupulous business deals by the then owners,the Edwards family gained mayoo a financial advantage over most English clubs, bar maybe Liverpool….the formation of the Premier League and cash from deals with Sky, and admittedly very clever marketing enabled manyoo to rise above all others for many years…..until Chelsea got heavily invested in by Abramovich……and as City are now the wealthiest club in the Premier League, and the WORLD, there is certainly every chance they can, IN TIME eclipse manyoo again…..buying success? Yeah, but no different to how manyoo came about it in the first place…!

    Ps, manyoo aren’t even officially IN Manchester…..City are the ONLY team in Manchester….Manc is Blue…..

    CTID

    Newton Heat, Manchester.

  25. dan
    dan
    February 17, 2010 at 6:41 am | | Reply


    go crew
    thats all i got to say

  26. Paul(No1Fan)
    February 17, 2010 at 10:49 am | | Reply


    I agree, there’s no reason why City can’t take off in the States. Their South American players are also a big draw for fans.

  27. JIm
    JIm
    February 20, 2010 at 4:53 pm | | Reply


    I have attended every game played by a premier league club in the Los Angeles area in the last 30 years since I moved here from Manchester. Yes, City against the defunct LA Heat and even when the rags played against Chivas at the sold out LA Coliseum (90,000?). What people will pay to see here is a good game with a good atmosphere. We went with a crowd from work of about 20 after I told them about it. The games here are not well publicized but are still well attended. My group consisted of South and Central Americans, Europeans, middle easterners,Asians and a couple of Americans.Typical of a soccer crowd here. I have been a City fan since birth and that will never change. I hope they tour and at least visit LA.

  28. football gifts
    May 13, 2010 at 9:59 am | | Reply


    City will have to spend many more millions to achieve success, they probably will attract some big names but will they achieve great things, I’m not so sure, yes they are form Manchster but they are not United

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