23 Responses

  1. patrick
    patrick
    April 15, 2010 at 7:38 am | | Reply


    real lack of decent footie iPad apps. Granted its still young… but the upsized iphone apps sorta suck. The lack of flash, and HTML5 based video isn’t being pushed for streaming yet..

    There is one clear winner in the iPad mania, Apple. They will get a cut of every app, video, song, book sold for the ipad…

    Its a great little device, I enjoy it on my hour long train ride in with a mifi card..

  2. Scott Hutchison
    April 15, 2010 at 10:20 am | | Reply


    Great article Gaffer.

    Beyond the value listed in this post, another big area of opportunity is to give coaches / involved parents a new tool to help their kids train and get better at the sport they love.

    Imagine being able to bring an iPad to the touchline so that – in real time – players can see plays develop, learn new strategies for success and better understand their opponents’ approach to that day’s competition.

    A company doing this well at the moment is Drillboard – http://www.soccercoachcentral.com – can definitely see this company succeeding with the iPad (and beyond). My kids already love it.

    Scott

    1. The Gaffer
      April 15, 2010 at 10:24 am | | Reply


      Scott, that’s a fantastic point and an excellent example of how an Apple iPad would be perfect in that scenario. A mobile phone would be too small. A laptop computer would be too cumbersome and awkward to hold. But an iPad would be ideal.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  3. ovalball
    ovalball
    April 15, 2010 at 10:46 am | | Reply


    “When you think about it, the size of the Apple iPad screen is very similar to what you’re already used to watching on FoxSoccer.tv, ESPN3 or Setanta-i or any other online platform.”

    There may be lots of reasons to love the iPad, but this isn’t one of them. I watch FS.tv full screen on a 37″ HDTV (as I did with Setanta-i).

    1. The Gaffer
      April 15, 2010 at 10:52 am | | Reply


      Ovalball, in that case, the iPad wouldn’t work for you. I usually watch FoxSoccer.tv on a laptop, so for me the Apple iPad would be the perfect experience to watch it. That’s if it works on an Apple iPad. Anyone tried it?

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

      1. patrick
        patrick
        April 15, 2010 at 7:04 pm | | Reply


        You can’t yet stream off the major sites as of yet. The stream needs to be HTML5 for it to work. Espn 3/360 is flash. and is FS.tv. There are some apps that allow illegal streams to work via uStream, but you have to dig out the show number. Not as easy as going to a streaming site and clicking.

        Apple has proclaimed that flash is a dying piece of the net, and html5 and h264 will be the standard in the years to come, so don’t wait for flash on any mobile apple product.

  4. romanov
    romanov
    April 15, 2010 at 1:06 pm | | Reply


    Handheld Football Manager 2010 came out just two days ago in the app store. It’s $9.99. This game would be pretty rad on ipad unless you already have tiny fingers.

  5. Phenoum
    Phenoum
    April 15, 2010 at 1:40 pm | | Reply


    Gaffer – You’re drinking the kool-aid my friend! Apple’s marketing is genious and you clearly have never heard of a netbook! It’s like you’re diggin for website hits – to make money off advertisements and grow your site by including the magic word “ipad”.

    1) Have you ever tried gaming with a touchscreen device? touch-controls and no buttons makes for a poor experience. I’d much rather play a free flash game on my netbook than pay $10 for a soccer App. Exactly when would you play these games? at home? xbox 360 thank you. Travelling? perhaps, but it’s a bit of a stretch to be gesticulating on the bus with a massive screen in your hands – I’ll take my phone, thanks.

    2) Watching matches? it’s a closed system Gaffer – they’ll lock out sopcast and any other streaming software for as long as they can – and those easy-to find links to embedded streaming media players are all…. FLASH! Did i mention windows 7 on a netbook supports flash, sopcast, ect AND it’s cheaper? and the “apps” are free? Lets not say it’s an awesome device for doing something that you have never tried, and something which Apple’s dead set against allowing (flash – ie justin.tv)

    3) Meh – Apps – you pay for em – they stack up and soon enough you’ve spent $300 on apps for a closed system that will never let you move on without taking more money from you (see iPhone OS 4.0 upgrade options) They’ve got you by the balls and you keep running happily along with em.

    4) Had to get a plug in for the sponsors yah? ah yes – ebooks – enjoy the eye strain from a backlit screen. thats the WHOLE POINT of e-ink – to reduce strain by removing lights shining in your eyes. Maybe get a book-light for reading in bed? (or the upcoming Notion Ink Adam)

    5) Dont read em much – but how is the Kindle bringing video?

    Previously the iPhone post, and now this – predictable i guess, but you’ve obviously never used a good $300 netbook.
    IMO i’ll take a netbook with flash, sopcast and other p2p streaming options for my soccer than the one-trick pony that’s tied to iTunes as the only option for synching/ moving files. Did I mention that i plug my netbook into my TV to watch matches that I stream?

    the RDF of mr Jobs most certainly has you in its grasp…
    how about a “best windows programs for following soccer” article next week? nah – wont happen…

    1. The Gaffer
      April 15, 2010 at 2:11 pm | | Reply


      Phenoum,

      “1) Have you ever tried gaming with a touchscreen device?” — Yes, I have and I loved it.

      “2) Watching matches? it’s a closed system Gaffer” — It is right now, but my hope is that some smart EPL Internet-rights owners will make the games available on an iPad in the near future.

      “3) Meh – Apps” — I love apps. 175,000 strong on the AppStore. Could all of those folks be wrong?

      “4) Had to get a plug in for the sponsors yah?” — Amazon is not a sponsor of this site.

      “5) Dont read em much – but how is the Kindle bringing video?” — The Kindle doesn’t currently bring video.

      “how about a “best windows programs for following soccer” article next week? nah – wont happen…” — I don’t own a Windows machine, so I’m not going to write an article about something I’m not experienced with. If any other EPL Talk blogger wants to write it, or if you want to write it, just let me know at thegaffer[at]epltalk[dot]com

      Phenoum, I have nothing against netbooks or Windows or PCs.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  6. Phenoum
    Phenoum
    April 15, 2010 at 2:19 pm | | Reply


    re: 5) – was nudging you about the typo :)

    And yes – I may be a slight bit anti-Apple (you already noticed?) but more than anything I just get irked by those who think it’s the messiah’s second coming. There are so many more better options out there, but everyone flocks to apple like sheep. As far as touchscreen gaming – I own 3-4 of them for my Palm Pre and dont like the touch d-pad at all. I’d much rather have a peripheral game pad or keyboard with buttons. As such – Apple will always lock out a third party gamepad option, while any other system welcomes them with open arms. If Apple doesnt get a cut of the profits – they’ll lock you out – and that’s straight up communism. it’s like Flash on their iphone/iPad – they dont support flash, and never will, because there’s millions of flash games out there that are free to play, and Apple cant get their 30% cut like they do in the app store. It’s self-centered and they’re starting to piss a lot of ppl off with their monopolistic actions.

    /endrant

    1. The Gaffer
      April 15, 2010 at 2:31 pm | | Reply


      I agree. Even the Apple fanboys are getting upset. I like their products and I love the multi-touch which to me marks a new era of computing. Apples and iPads are not for everyone, but I appreciate you telling us about the other side of the argument.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  7. Tom
    Tom
    April 15, 2010 at 3:54 pm | | Reply


    Take a look at: http://aligata.com/ . Handmade, genuine leather cases for iPad.

  8. Gious
    Gious
    April 15, 2010 at 5:49 pm | | Reply


    Watching matches on it in a smooth, quick way is the #1 key

    But I doubt many networks would allow that, ESPECIALLY AT&T

    You would need Wifi and I think they should try to allow it on 3G where people could watch it at work on the go

  9. tony
    tony
    April 15, 2010 at 6:57 pm | | Reply


    Makes me laugh when people say they cant read there kindle without a back light..
    you don’t need one, Kindle was designed to act like a book. how many people read books in the dark they have a light on the night stand : Turn it on and your fine
    Reading a glowing Ipad in a totally dark room has to be bad for the eyes

    Also touch screens do not work for fast games.. you can not move with a touch screen X-pad fast enough your fingers stick to the screen I have tried and it just does not work..

    1. The Gaffer
      April 15, 2010 at 7:18 pm | | Reply


      Tony, I don’t have a light on my night stand and the book light I’ve used doesn’t work that well on my Kindle. I end up reading most of my books at night via the Kindle app on my Apple iPhone. Not the best for my eyes, I know. But an Apple iPad lit up, with the brightness turned down so it wasn’t so glowing would be much better for me than a Kindle with a book light attached.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

      1. Tony
        Tony
        April 16, 2010 at 1:04 am | | Reply


        Well for 10 dollars you could have got a cheap lamp :)

  10. vinnie
    vinnie
    April 15, 2010 at 7:49 pm | | Reply


    for one second, i thought managers would start replacing portable white boards or pen & paper with iPad to draw formations and tactics, or 4th official would start using iPad as electronic display…

    actually, come to think of it, that could be a marketing gimmick for apple

  11. ovalball
    ovalball
    April 15, 2010 at 8:46 pm | | Reply


    “…..4th official would start using iPad as electronic display…”

    iSub (substitutions)

    iTime (extra time)

    iSee (offside)

    iDived (subset of iSee)

    iFouled (wide-angle iSee)

    (iQuit)

    1. The Gaffer
      April 15, 2010 at 8:56 pm | | Reply


      CLASSIC! :)

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  12. Madschester United
    Madschester United
    April 16, 2010 at 12:55 am | | Reply


    I honestly like your ideas.

    FM2010 could be fantastic on iPad — if loading times were reasonable, which I fear they will not be. My brand new MacBook Pro did a decent job and the iPad is nowhere near as powerful. Furthermore, FIFA or other multitouch video games at high pace on iPad (or iPod Touch for that matter) are horrendously annoying. Move your finger too far, relax your finger, change position of device, etc… are all tiny things that make it nearly impossible to play FIFA like you would on a PS3 or other console/PC.

    Being able to watch streaming football (in decent quality or better) on an iPad would be REVOLUTIONARY! Imaging traveling by train or car and sitting on your 3/4 G network watching United win it in overtime!!! No laptop or shoddy netbook can do that. However, you will need two things to happen:
    1. Apple needs to include Flash or find a way to convert flash-driven sites and streams to HTML5 video — highly unlikely. Or, footy sites need to switch their content to HTML5. Again, highly unlikely.
    2. Apple will give access for apps from premierleague.com or foxsoccer.tv or espn360.com that allow streaming video — much as the youtube app. This is the most likely scenario, but will not allow iPad users to access the free streams that we generally use — of course, the iPad crowd is (or Apple users are) not known for doing things the cheap way ;)

    1. Phenoum
      Phenoum
      April 16, 2010 at 11:46 am | | Reply


      Well I have the Palm Pre and get free 3G tethering with it – so yeah – I can already do this with my “shoddy” netbook (and do on road trips when im not driving). Sopcast and VLC make a great pair. My free tethering app on my phone gives 3G over wifi to my netbook, and voila – welcome to the revolution. It started yesterday :)

      Oh, and netbooks with 3G access card built in have been available for 6+ months already. But the service is extra (as is the iPad’s) and the iPad limits you to 5GB if im not mistaken (AT&T)

  13. The Gaffer
    April 16, 2010 at 9:32 pm | | Reply


    When I said there are huge opportunities for clubs and leagues to embrace the iPad and similar technology, little did I know that the Womens Professional Soccer league (WPS) would announce that they’ll show one of their games live via an iPhone app this weekend. Learn more at http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/is-the-w-p-s-the-ileague/

    According to The New York Times, “W.P.S. has used an all-out social networking and Internet plan to present the league to its most desirable audience — young people who live much of their lives on the Web and expect to be addressed on their terms.” Smart, smart, smart.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  14. John Ralph
    April 17, 2010 at 6:53 am | | Reply


    Great live score iPad app…
    http://www.goalserve.com/ipad

    The iPad for sure is exciting for any industry and not at least for for sports.

Leave a Reply