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  1. Jeff C.
    Jeff C.
    October 23, 2008 at 5:49 am | | Reply


    Sami got old (he's 35). It happens to everyone, and you can't really blame him for it.

  2. Auslander25
    Auslander25
    October 23, 2008 at 7:11 am | | Reply


    Bent has scored twice this season (Chelsea, Stoke). I think Bent shouldn't be on the list; he's playing in a system that doesn't suit his talents. Put him at Liverpool or Aston Villa and I think you would see completely different results.

    I'd put Owen Hargreaves on the list. Granted most of his career was spent in Germany, but United paid ~18 million for him and he's always injured.

  3. DoublePivot
    October 23, 2008 at 8:18 am | | Reply


    Bentley will join this list soon.

  4. ben
    ben
    October 23, 2008 at 8:22 am | | Reply


    Funny how many players on this list have a Newcastle connection. You might even make the argument that Michael Owen was far better during his Liverpool days than he is now, and he plays for Newcastle too.

  5. The Gaffer
    October 23, 2008 at 8:26 am | | Reply


    Jeff, Sami may be old, but you can't use that as an excuse. Look at Paolo Maldini. He's 40 and still playing good football for AC Milan.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  6. Smiff
    Smiff
    October 23, 2008 at 8:52 am | | Reply


    He also plays in Serie A which is of a slower pace to that of the Premier League. Sami Hyypia has been a fantastic player for Liverpool over the years and his performances last season weren't that bad. Indeed, it was only due to him and Carragher being our only fit centrebacks at the time that he even started as many matches as he did.

    His experience on the training ground is also proof that he is far from 'crap'. However since you've obviously plucked Sami Hyypia out of thin air to make up your list of 'seven', let me correct it by picking Wayne Rooney.

    He was brilliant, then he was crap. Yeah he might be brilliant again now but if you can make such ludicrous suggestions then so can I. ;-) In all seriousness though, Andy Johnson is worth a shout. As is Luis Saha (although injury plays a part). Or at least his form at Fulham was 'brilliant'.

  7. ls7
    ls7
    October 23, 2008 at 10:56 am | | Reply


    Except for Hyypia, who I agree simply just got a bit old, and Alan Smith — who has been messed up by being shuffled between attack and midfield, the others have a commonality.

    They were all overrated !

  8. timmyg
    October 23, 2008 at 11:19 am | | Reply


    you could add pedersen from blackburn to that list

  9. Matt
    Matt
    October 23, 2008 at 4:23 pm | | Reply


    “He was signed by West Ham for £6 million more than a year ago, but has only made two appearances for the East London club.”
    Harsh, the lads been injured since his second game with one of the worst injuries possible to a player.

    As for the Hyypia thing. My god, another “Gaffer in shock have a go at Liverpool for no reason”. You clearly know absolutely f-all about football if you now think Hyypia is 'crap'. He has performed admirably in the last few seasons, remains an important player in the squad and has been a tremendous servant for TEN years at one club (a rarity in this day and age). Ask any knowledgeble football fan and they will disagree with Hyypia being thrown in with the other crap in this “article” (yeah right). If Hyypia was so crap, how come a host of Premier League clubs tried to sign him in the summer and will do so again this January?

    You really do show your bias Gaffer and it's pretty pathetic.

  10. Matt
    Matt
    October 23, 2008 at 4:25 pm | | Reply


    Smiff, well put. Having Hyypia on this list is truely pathetic.

  11. BishopvilleRed
    BishopvilleRed
    October 23, 2008 at 5:05 pm | | Reply


    Nope. Pederson had a great season. That doesn't make you a brilliant player, jus one who had a great season. And came back to earth.

  12. BishopvilleRed
    BishopvilleRed
    October 23, 2008 at 6:12 pm | | Reply


    Leeds and Newcastle. What more do you need to ay about a good chunk of this list?

    And Hyypia IS crap. Age doesn't matter. If you go on the pitch, you're good or you're not; not “good for a kid” or “good for a codger”, just good or crap. End of.

    And on that note, I offer you…..Sol Campbell

    SB

  13. doomcade
    October 23, 2008 at 7:39 pm | | Reply


    Most of them played for newcastle, i can't guess why they are crap now!

  14. Django
    Django
    October 23, 2008 at 10:32 pm | | Reply


    Hyypia is unfounded…putting him in the same article as Lee Bowyer is an insult. Hyypia filled in admirably last season; sure, his pace is less, but he's still quality in the air and a threat on set pieces. I keep coming back hoping the writing will get better, but time and time again it doesn't.

  15. The Gaffer
    October 24, 2008 at 5:45 am | | Reply


    Django, let me know what types of articles you'd like to see. I can't please all the people all the time, but I can try. Your input would be welcome.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  16. The Gaffer
    October 24, 2008 at 5:51 am | | Reply


    Matt, how is having an opinion about a player showing my bias? I support no Premier League clubs so I call it as I see it. If Liverpool does things to impress me, I'll write about them favorably.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  17. Raatzie
    Raatzie
    October 24, 2008 at 12:07 pm | | Reply


    For example, if Liverpool wins the quadruple without conceding a single goal OR point the entire rest of the season . . . well, then Gaffer will acknowledge that they had an above average year.

    Then he'll write 793 posts about why they won't win anything NEXT year.

  18. The Gaffer
    October 24, 2008 at 2:31 pm | | Reply


    Raatzie, if Liverpool deserves praise, I'll gladly write about them in a favorable light as I have done on countless occasions before. To me, Liverpool fans are too sensitive. If they had won the Premier League this season, I'd be over the moon and would give them the deserved praise.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  19. Raatzie
    Raatzie
    October 24, 2008 at 2:48 pm | | Reply


    “It's time for Liverpool to walk the walk instead of talking the talk.”

    I certainly agree with that.

    And as I've said before, if I were a betting man (and objective), I'd be plunking a sizable chunk of change on Chelsea, not Liverpool, to win the League.

    But mid-September through mid-October is too early for a “Liverpool (or Arsenal or Man U or Spurs . . . well, not Spurs) won't win the league” article.

    Much less the approximately 17 you've written in that span.

  20. Mateo
    Mateo
    October 25, 2008 at 3:57 am | | Reply


    If Hyypia belongs on this list, then so does David Beckham.. Granted he is not in the Premier League anymore but he is barely cutting it in a crap league like the MLS..

    I think you cant judge a player on the fact his age has caught up to him.

  21. steviethek
    October 25, 2008 at 5:41 pm | | Reply


    Boy that Bobby Charlton doesn't play like he used to.

  22. Jon
    Jon
    November 2, 2008 at 6:48 am | | Reply


    Harry Kewell should be on the list, although I accept here's no longer an EPL player.

    When he broke through at Leeds he was a marouding, flamboyent and pacey wingers. He played a key part in the club's (flashing) European success and genuinely terrified defenders.

    He joined Liverpool and seemed to lose every once of his natural talent, confidence and motivation for the game. Now he plays in Turkey – oh what might (and should) have been, Harry.

    Another Leeds United connecton too.

  23. Todd
    Todd
    November 2, 2008 at 7:23 am | | Reply


    Come on Gaffer, you must be kidding about Hyppia. In fact you show pure ignorance in including him in this post. He is absolute legend and will be remembered as one of Liverpool's greatest defenders. He's 33 and has lost his spot to two very promising youngsters Daniel Agger and Martin Skyrtel. I never worry when he takes the pitch and still get joy out of watching him take on the class strikers that play in the premier league. He has had a brilliant career and it makes you look ignorant and biased to include him on this list.

  24. Tibbsy
    Tibbsy
    December 31, 2008 at 11:50 am | | Reply


    Jon,

    You make it sound as if Kewell simply chose to disappoint after his hugely impressive opening years with Leeds.

    Fact is Kewell suffered from a terrible spate of serious injuries including his achilles tendon while still at Leeds and tearing his groin off the bone at Liverpool – causing him to lose his athleticism (his electric pace and leap are all but gone) and any semblance of ongoing match fitness.

    As is the case with a lot of players with unfulfilled potential, If he stayed fit he could've been anything.

  25. Tibbsy
    Tibbsy
    December 31, 2008 at 11:54 am | | Reply


    The Gaffer, you seem to have read Wikipedia wrong while conducting your research..

    Darren Bent “knocking in 121 at the East Anglia club and 68 for Alan Curbishley’s side” didn't happen – they were his total appearances for both clubs.

    In reality he scored 49 times for Ipswich and 31 times for the Addicks.

  26. Arturi
    Arturi
    January 10, 2010 at 9:43 am | | Reply


    I also disagree about Hyppia although I’m not a Liverpool fan.
    But I respect your opinion.

    Yeah it’s funny how Newcastle seemed to be a bad-luck-charm to some of the guys… quite like Inter Milan post-Matthaus and before 2006-Calciopoli-scandal era.

    Darren Bent, on the other hand, has found a club to be called home by now. He’s on the right track.

    I thought maybe managers like Graeme Souness and Mark Hughes seems like a talent-drainer for some of the lads.

    Nice topic… although crap is a bit too harsh

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