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  1. Ted
    Ted
    July 6, 2010 at 6:49 am | | Reply


    In point two, it should read 4:30am, not pm.

    1. Ted
      Ted
      July 6, 2010 at 6:51 am | | Reply


      Make that point three.

      1. The Gaffer
        July 6, 2010 at 7:20 am | | Reply


        Thanks Ted. Now fixed.

        Cheers,
        The Gaffer

  2. Stephen Lucey
    July 6, 2010 at 9:10 am | | Reply


    Gaffer-

    I am desperate for an update regarding club football in HD here in the USA. Give me a fix!

    Stephen

    1. Lermio Lermasaurus
      Lermio Lermasaurus
      July 6, 2010 at 12:50 pm | | Reply


      lol@you

  3. Jim
    Jim
    July 6, 2010 at 9:17 am | | Reply


    Not to get all Bill Simmons-y here, but the fact that all the games are broadcast in HD has helped a lot for bringing in casual viewers. As it stands now, for most of us the only games we can see in HD are the ESPN EPL and La Liga games (which are never promoted at all). I think that one thing you missed from your list is the inclusion of FSC HD into more cable lineups thus broadening the reach of HD soccer from Europe. This of course would require more HD production in England, Germany, Spain, etc. in order to have any benefit over here but I imagine they will move to 100% HD production soon.

    1. UpTheBlues
      UpTheBlues
      July 6, 2010 at 9:47 am | | Reply


      Bill Simmons +1 :D

  4. Dave B.
    Dave B.
    July 6, 2010 at 9:56 am | | Reply


    I think HD is going to be huge in all this. If Fox Soccer can’t get a few of the major players (especially Direct TV and Comcast) to show its HD channel before the start of the new season, I think they’ll be leaving some potential new fans on the table.

    By the way, don’t think I’ve seen it mentioned here but Celtic and Sporting are playing a friendly at Fenway Park in Boston on July 25.

  5. chet
    chet
    July 6, 2010 at 10:11 am | | Reply


    Does fox soccer even have an HD channel? It does not exist on Directv. If they do have one then directv is missing out big time. Also, what are the chances that ESPN has broader coverage in the states this season versus last? Did they lock in anymore game times? Last year it was either the 7:30am game or the monday afternoon game. Will they get any of the 10:00am or later starts?

  6. Johnny Lawrence
    Johnny Lawrence
    July 6, 2010 at 10:22 am | | Reply


    Gaffer,

    Has ESPN announced their Euro 2012 commentary crew yet? Which company has the rights in England?

  7. MarylandBill
    MarylandBill
    July 6, 2010 at 11:06 am | | Reply


    I can’t but help hope that some American Fans will seek out the home grown game and start attending MLS and the USL/NASL games. Also, maybe ESPN, or other venue will start televising more American games.

    Mind you, I know a lot of fans of the European, Mexican or South American games believe that American Soccer is second rate soccer, and it certainly is compared to the top European Leagues. But if we don’t watch it, it won’t get the revenue it needs to get better.

    1. Jay
      Jay
      July 6, 2010 at 1:18 pm | | Reply


      I would be more likely to support the MLS if there was a local side. Right now there are large areas of the country where you are pretty much out of luck…

      Granted I am not privy to their business model, but why no teams in the Southeast (since the contraction at least)?

      At some point you have to wonder, am I supporting an inferior product so it can get better, or am I rewarding them for providing an inferior product?

    2. Marc
      Marc
      July 6, 2010 at 1:51 pm | | Reply


      I too hope that more fans come out in places like Houston, Columbus, and other places that have low attendance, but MLS attendance is already comparable or better than international leagues of a similar level. An average attendance of ~16,500 across the league is pretty good already. This isn’t to say I don’t hope attendance increases, just that I feel we should acknowledge that the MLS is doing fine drawing people.

      Television will be the key to future growth, just as it was for American Football, in my opinion. I know some people in the US disapproved of the ever-present coverage of the World Cup, but look what it did for getting people to tune in. Increased exposure is the key to the major growth many soccer fans here are hoping for.

  8. Clair
    Clair
    July 6, 2010 at 11:20 am | | Reply


    I will spend my time enjoying other interests I have outside of soccer & other sports. I am thinking about attending the NY Football Challenge.

  9. New England
    New England
    July 6, 2010 at 4:58 pm | | Reply


    If we’re goign to talk about attendance, lets look at it across the board. What the MLS pulls in is decent, but compared to the larger sports (with the exception of hockey and NHL because they are typically played in smaller stadiums) they still have a long way to go.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures

    Soccer will never take off in this country if it continues to promote MLS. The product isn’t that great and you can’t expect the average fan to watch MLS when they know there is a better league out there. We’ve hit the high water mark for MLS in terms of viewership (maybe a spike after the WC, but by next year, it comes down). Promote the EPL, get people excitied about a Man Utd vs Man City game. If Donovan pulls up his skirt and decides to play for Man City type of team, you will certainly see ratings jump. Not only will fans turn in to see Donovan, but they will get hooked once they see what great style of play that is out there (and games that aren’t all played on fake grass)

    1. MarylandBill
      MarylandBill
      July 6, 2010 at 11:51 pm | | Reply


      Considering the fact that MLS is an attempt at establishing a fifth major team sport in the United States, its not doing bad. Attendance is not only close to what the NHL and the NBA are drawing, but it is also comparable or better than most other soccer leagues out there. The MLS is nipping at the heels of the English League Championship and Brasileirão in terms of average attendance.

      In my opinion, the USA needs a vital domestic league if we want Soccer to thrive in this country. EPL and other foreign leagues will only get it so far. Many people need to have home town teams… or at least ones relatively near to them, to feel a part of the game. Going to see games, regularly will help inspire kids to stick with soccer. Now, I am not saying the MLS is perfect, but until something better comes along, we need to support it and work to make it better otherwise soccer in this country might die like it did in the early 20th century.

  10. TREV-BHOY
    TREV-BHOY
    July 12, 2010 at 8:47 am | | Reply


    YOU FAILED TO MENTION CELTIC WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TEAMS COMING TO AMERICA FOR PRE SEASON FRIENDLIES. CELTIC HAVE A MASSIVE FAN BASE IN THE U.S.A , PROBABLY MORE THAN MOST OF THE TEAMS YOU MENTIONED, DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF EX PATS IN THE COUNTRY.

    1. MarylandBill
      MarylandBill
      July 12, 2010 at 9:36 am | | Reply


      Two points.

      1. Have you not yet learned that it is not polite to write in all caps? We are not Romans here inscribing on marble. Using all caps is more or less equivalent to shouting.

      2. Just a thought, but perhaps Celtic didn’t get mentioned because they are not an EPL team but a Scottish League team?

      Last thought, ex pats or no, it seems to me that Manchester United has a much higher profile in the States than Celtic… particularly amongst those who are not (yet!?) soccer fans.

  11. TREV-BHOY
    TREV-BHOY
    July 14, 2010 at 5:04 am | | Reply


    in your opinion maybe. manchester united only have a higher profile because they play in a highly over rated league. englands perfomance in the world cup proves that.

  12. TREV-BHOY
    TREV-BHOY
    July 14, 2010 at 5:12 am | | Reply


    also you say they have a much higher profile especialy with those who are not ‘soccer’ fans. well wot does that prove except man utd hav a bigger profile as a business. thats due to money and having american owners. nothing to do with football, history or being a way of life for the fans!

  13. TREV-BHOY
    TREV-BHOY
    July 14, 2010 at 5:18 am | | Reply


    if only you knew how the english fans ana media mock the american game and people. they mocked you throughout the world cup. as they mock most teams because they for some reason feel superior. if u guys knew how the american game and your team were perceived in the english media i have a feeling you wouldn’t think so highly of the english league or their teams.

  14. MarylandBill
    MarylandBill
    July 14, 2010 at 12:58 pm | | Reply


    I could care less about how many English fans feel about the American Game. I enjoy both the MLS and the English Leagues. I hope one day that American MLS teams will be able to compete head to head with the best the EPL or any other top league can throw at us, but we aren’t here yet.

    Here is a clue TREV-BHOY, sports is a business. Any professional sports club that is going to be ultimately successful needs to be run like a business. That being said, I actually think Manchester United’s fame has a lot to do with David Beckham. Since the movie _Bend it Like Beckham_ came out while he was with Manchester United, and he later married a Spice Girl near the top of their popularity, it brought attention to Manchester United that it might have otherwise not received. Also, its run of success in the 90 and early 2000s probably attracted some success as well.

    As for the performance of the English in the World Cup, it really doesn’t prove much of any thing in and of itself about the EPL just like a poor showing in the Olympic Basketball tournament says very little about the NBA.

  15. JohnA
    JohnA
    July 23, 2010 at 6:24 am | | Reply


    Does anyone know if ESPN, ESPN2, or ESPN Classic will show German Bundesliga games in English this season?

    1. The Gaffer
      July 23, 2010 at 6:34 am | | Reply


      I believe ESPN3.com will be showing them.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

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