16 Responses

  1. vishnu
    October 14, 2009 at 1:53 am | | Reply


    yep, completely agree with you on this. If Nani had gone to Spain/Italy or Germany before coming to United, he’d be on the same level as Rooney. Which begs the question, why aren’t english teams willing to loan their players out to clubs on the continent? yes the game is different over there, but if the kid improves, he’ll have a better chance at developing his skill set, and then adapt to the Englishness of the EPL.
    If Diouf and Ljajic light up the prem, we may see more of it.

    1. The Gaffer
      October 14, 2009 at 9:35 am | | Reply


      I’m no fan of Nani. He has some skill but to me is a poor man’s Cristiano Ronaldo, but nowhere near the talent or potential. Nani would be better suited learning from Ryan Giggs than playing on the continent.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  2. Don
    Don
    October 14, 2009 at 4:21 am | | Reply


    Pato is World Class?

    Bendtner is ahead in his development compared to Ibrahimovich at the same age.

    1. David
      David
      October 14, 2009 at 1:47 pm | | Reply


      Scoring a goal almost every two games… yea, Pato is world class at the ripe old age of 20.

    2. David
      David
      October 14, 2009 at 1:50 pm | | Reply


      Also, Bendter gets more games than Ibrhimovich did at 21, but he doesn’t have the same goalscoring average as Zlatan did.

    3. Lyle
      October 14, 2009 at 2:27 pm | | Reply


      I’m with you, Pato is not World Class at the moment and might not ever be. He seems to overrated in my opinion.

  3. Geoff
    Geoff
    October 14, 2009 at 10:21 am | | Reply


    I think you will find that it has more to do with the £ being at 25 year lows, and EPL clubs are getting out-bid.

  4. Lyle
    October 14, 2009 at 2:31 pm | | Reply


    I agree with the general sentiment of your argument. Young players get fewer chances in England because so much is at stake. Its not coincidence that West Ham yo-yo’s from the top league to the second league because it plays lots of youngsters. Seasoned players are simply better at keeping teams up in the league, I think and managers don’t want to blow points just to see if a kid has what it takes to play in the EPL.

    England must start sending players to the other leagues. Young players need to be challenged and learn from other people. They can show themselves in plenty of places besides England, I think.

    The new North Atlantic league might be a good place to start.

    I also think the FA should allow EPL teams to either own or help run League Two and League One clubs so that the EPL team can send players to play down a few leagues when they’re ready for that.

  5. ish
    ish
    October 15, 2009 at 12:22 am | | Reply


    kalou has got a lot of game time, more then many of the starters due to injuries and lack of attacking players. He just isnt consistent enough even with starts.

    mikel is pretty close to world class.

    Another thing with young non-eu footballers, getting them into england with work permits is hard. thats why nearly every player in the youth level have some form of eu passport.

    Generally if a player is good enough to start they will. Its just that finding a fabregas, pato, messi or that level player is very rare. Of the thousands of young players who are professional only a handful reach the summit of best player.

  6. Sarah Millery
    October 15, 2009 at 1:56 am | | Reply


    I don’t think they are necessarily shunning the EPL, I think its just that players from certain area’s like South America, prefer the Italian or Spanish style of play, so they feel they can progress better in those leagues. The quality Spanish youngsters like to stay in Spain, with a few exceptions (Fabregas and a few coming through the ranks at Liverpool), which is really the same for English youngsters (I cant think of one that went to another league to progress? Can you name one?)

    1. Gaz
      Gaz
      October 15, 2009 at 2:38 pm | | Reply


      Jermaine Pennant could be one if he actually progresses.

    2. Thomas
      Thomas
      October 15, 2009 at 5:30 pm | | Reply


      Absolutely agree. South American style is more similar to Spanish and Italian. Also, it’s much easier for a South American to assimilate into Spain, even Italy, because of the language. A Brazilian can probably learn Spanish or Italian much faster than say English.. this could be a generalization, but I feel many S. American players are also not extremely educated, as they have concentrated on Football rather than school, so their English is probably non existant.

      And I also have to agree that besides a few players here and there, most Youngsters stay in their native country to develop, rather than moving to England. When they do move, they already seem to be at that next level.

      Though you see promising youngsters go to big clubs on the Continent, it’s not like a 17year old is going to go to Juve or Inter and play any significant minutes either. As of now, it just so happens that Joevetic is at Fiorentina. He will probably move within the next 2 years.

      Also, it’s not like there haven’t been plenty of promising youngsters who have gone to England to develope either…go from Club to Club and look.

      Ronaldo, Nani, Anderson, Rafael & Fabio, Mascheda, Cesc, Nasri, Denilson, Diarra, Clichy, Bendtner, Van Persie, Mikel, Kalou, Lucas, Babel.

      And that’s just scouring the top 4 sides. There’s plenty of promising youngsters who have chosen England.

  7. r4 firmware
    October 15, 2009 at 3:24 am | | Reply


    Nice post. I am totally agree with Vishnu. I love roony and he played best.

  8. Sarah Millery
    October 15, 2009 at 10:28 pm | | Reply


    Gaz, Jermaine Pennant is way to old to be consider a young player, and quite frankly his attitude is not right. I would concede that he does have some skill, but he is too lazy (claimed by teammates) and we all know that skill will only take you so far, and the rest of the way needs hard work.

    So I am still waiting for an English player to travel and make his name abroad, but I just don’t think there is one or even one in the making (as they are snapped up by English clubs)

    1. The Gaffer
      October 15, 2009 at 11:03 pm | | Reply


      Sarah, it may take an English manager going over to the continent to be gutsy enough to bring some of his English footballers to Europe. I’ve been surprised that Steve McClaren hasn’t tried to bring some of the Boro youngsters over to FC Twente, for example.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  9. navaz
    navaz
    October 30, 2009 at 3:59 am | | Reply


    i think young players should achieve something big n leave the club …like KAKA was at milan he was da worlds best player won champions league with milan ….same way c.ronaldo was at MANchester for 6-7 years he became top scorer and got the champions league cup n barclays cup….same way players like jovetic ,pato ,mata ,pablo hernandez ,arsenal youths ,david santone ,mario ballotelli ,thomas muller ,edin dzeko ,miralem pjanic ….are hot prospects and r much more in demand n talked about compared to 5 star players …..like once brazilian ronaldo ruled ,zidane ruled ,figo ruled ,…but as players cross 27-28(most of them) their game changes….n iseriously feel barclays is overrated ..just 4-5 teams r good …..and the way spanish ,german ,italians score its really entertaining ….and like pato scored 2 goals against madrid that shows his capability ….team chemistry ..having star studded players in a team has nothing but a players former club suffering eg milan wen kaka transfrd ,c.ronaldo manu-real madrid …..theres more than resentment for the people to see their superstar leave the club for money or fame or for a change ,…but the truth is ,all the youth players around the world should stay in their respective clubs till they grow n achieve n make the people happy

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