Comments on: Argentina 4-1 United States: The Harsh Reality http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905 Daily News & Analysis of the English Premier League Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:35:18 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2279 Anonymous Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:15:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2279 The MLS should stop wasting their time competing with other sporting leagues and start focusing on developing the quality of its game, players, and coaches. Our youth developing system and leagues needs a huge overhaul and all the incompetent leadership at USSF replaced. The MLS should stop wasting their time competing with other sporting leagues and start focusing on developing the quality of its game, players, and coaches. Our youth developing system and leagues needs a huge overhaul and all the incompetent leadership at USSF replaced.

]]> By: Lowell http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2274 Lowell Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:14:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2274 The US side was sad. I have seen college teams play more cohesive, more determined soccer. Bradley is still playing with his "pawns" and doesnt have the killer soccer instincts that European managers have.<br/><br/>I saw Johnson get the penalty in the first half but didnt see him at all in the second have. He's more of a magician than David Copperfield. Disappears when you need him most. The US side was sad. I have seen college teams play more cohesive, more determined soccer. Bradley is still playing with his “pawns” and doesnt have the killer soccer instincts that European managers have.

I saw Johnson get the penalty in the first half but didnt see him at all in the second have. He’s more of a magician than David Copperfield. Disappears when you need him most.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2272 Anonymous Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:56:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2272 In the summer, MLS only has to compete with Major League Baseball. If it kept to the Euro calendar, it would have to compete not only with the Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, etc. in the US market, but also NFL, college football, college basketball, NBA, and NHL. <br/><br/>To remain as visible and viable as possible it has to keep to that schedule. Now they could adjust the schedule to not conflict with FIFA international dates and tourneys, but... In the summer, MLS only has to compete with Major League Baseball. If it kept to the Euro calendar, it would have to compete not only with the Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, etc. in the US market, but also NFL, college football, college basketball, NBA, and NHL.

To remain as visible and viable as possible it has to keep to that schedule. Now they could adjust the schedule to not conflict with FIFA international dates and tourneys, but…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2269 Anonymous Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:36:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2269 I just don't know why the MLS even has their season during a time when their best players are likely to be called up for international duties. I'm sure there are other leagues that do this, and I'm sure MLS has a pretty damn good reason. Can anyone explain, since I'm too lazy to figure it out.. I just don’t know why the MLS even has their season during a time when their best players are likely to be called up for international duties. I’m sure there are other leagues that do this, and I’m sure MLS has a pretty damn good reason. Can anyone explain, since I’m too lazy to figure it out..

]]> By: Llewellyn http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2268 Llewellyn Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:10:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2268 To the people behind US Soccer's selection committee... Hope you're happy with yourselves! <br/>Play the A-squad in the "two-team" Gold Cup (US & Mexico)... and play a B-Squad against the toughest nations in the Americas!<br/><br/>Way to go guys! Not only are you guys chickenshit about having the A-squad possibly losing to the likes of Argentina, Columbia, Mexico & Brazil by playing on a ground outside the US but you also insulted the tournament by bringing in a shit squad while the other nations value the Copa by bringing their best available.<br/><br/>I understand if the likes of Dempsey, Bocanegra, Beasely, Howard and any other European club players were obligated not to play but players like Landon Donovan, an MLS player asked by Bob Bradley to participate and lead USA in the Copa America pussied out to save what's left his shit club in a shit league!<br/>Grow some hair on your balls Landycakes and take some pride in your national squad! You wanna be the best, play the best you pussy!<br/>Bob was right to strip you of the captaincy you whiny little bitch! To the people behind US Soccer’s selection committee… Hope you’re happy with yourselves!
Play the A-squad in the “two-team” Gold Cup (US & Mexico)… and play a B-Squad against the toughest nations in the Americas!

Way to go guys! Not only are you guys chickenshit about having the A-squad possibly losing to the likes of Argentina, Columbia, Mexico & Brazil by playing on a ground outside the US but you also insulted the tournament by bringing in a shit squad while the other nations value the Copa by bringing their best available.

I understand if the likes of Dempsey, Bocanegra, Beasely, Howard and any other European club players were obligated not to play but players like Landon Donovan, an MLS player asked by Bob Bradley to participate and lead USA in the Copa America pussied out to save what’s left his shit club in a shit league!
Grow some hair on your balls Landycakes and take some pride in your national squad! You wanna be the best, play the best you pussy!
Bob was right to strip you of the captaincy you whiny little bitch!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2266 Anonymous Sun, 01 Jul 2007 03:44:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2266 my head isn't lowered at all. we played a bad squad. you're just a moron when you use phrases like "harsh reality" the harsh reality is you have no clue what you are talking about my head isn’t lowered at all. we played a bad squad. you’re just a moron when you use phrases like “harsh reality” the harsh reality is you have no clue what you are talking about

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2263 Anonymous Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:00:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2263 The USA have a good side and still could qualify for the next round. Argentina were the better side on paper and on the field. This is football, and anything can happen on any given day. USA fans can take heart at the fact that the USA always give 110% Good Luck..USA The USA have a good side and still could qualify for the next round. Argentina were the better side on paper and on the field. This is football, and anything can happen on any given day. USA fans can take heart at the fact that the USA always give 110% Good Luck..USA

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2262 Anonymous Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:19:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2262 My head isn't lowered. For a B-C team performance against the A Argentina squad, the U.S. played some good soccer. Bornstein and Johnson both look like real talents that need exactly this kind of competition to sharpen their games. A couple of times Johnson showed that if only he would have the mental awareness on the pitch he could be a full-fledged european striker. Anyways, 4 to 1 was in my eyes not the whole story of the game. Of course, Argentina was going to win, but the U.S. showed promise. What however is with US wingers not knowing what to do with the ball in attack? They would run to the corner and then just hack at the ball or give it away. My head isn’t lowered. For a B-C team performance against the A Argentina squad, the U.S. played some good soccer. Bornstein and Johnson both look like real talents that need exactly this kind of competition to sharpen their games. A couple of times Johnson showed that if only he would have the mental awareness on the pitch he could be a full-fledged european striker. Anyways, 4 to 1 was in my eyes not the whole story of the game. Of course, Argentina was going to win, but the U.S. showed promise. What however is with US wingers not knowing what to do with the ball in attack? They would run to the corner and then just hack at the ball or give it away.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2260 Anonymous Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:43:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2260 I can understand why the Gold Cup would be Bradley's priority number one, as it gives the US a spot at the Confederation in 2009.. but I have this gut feeling that negotiations with the MLS may have been one of the reasons for Bradley to not go with a stronger squad, regardless of whether he wanted to go in full force or not. Copa America is clearly more competitive compared to the Gold Cup and would have provided the A squad some valuable experience to take with them to the world cup. I'm assuming this was an opportunity for Bradley to really see what the young inexperienced players can do at the most highest pressure (I think last night game was a first cap for 3 players), however I can only see a handful of them with a realistic chance of being called up for the world cup (Johnson, Feilhaber, Bornstein, Keller, etc.). <br/><br/>With that said, the young squad defended well and created some opportunities on the counterattack in the first half. Bornstein did well in keeping Messi very quiet until Gaven came on. I thought EJ could have used a little more support up front and found some of the players repeating the same mistakes more than once (Justin Mapp). Things really began to change for the Argentines when Aimar came on for Cambiasso, and Tevez is just as lethal as ever. I wouldn't mind seeing him an Arsenal shirt :P I can understand why the Gold Cup would be Bradley’s priority number one, as it gives the US a spot at the Confederation in 2009.. but I have this gut feeling that negotiations with the MLS may have been one of the reasons for Bradley to not go with a stronger squad, regardless of whether he wanted to go in full force or not. Copa America is clearly more competitive compared to the Gold Cup and would have provided the A squad some valuable experience to take with them to the world cup. I’m assuming this was an opportunity for Bradley to really see what the young inexperienced players can do at the most highest pressure (I think last night game was a first cap for 3 players), however I can only see a handful of them with a realistic chance of being called up for the world cup (Johnson, Feilhaber, Bornstein, Keller, etc.).

With that said, the young squad defended well and created some opportunities on the counterattack in the first half. Bornstein did well in keeping Messi very quiet until Gaven came on. I thought EJ could have used a little more support up front and found some of the players repeating the same mistakes more than once (Justin Mapp). Things really began to change for the Argentines when Aimar came on for Cambiasso, and Tevez is just as lethal as ever. I wouldn’t mind seeing him an Arsenal shirt :P

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.epltalk.com/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/905#comment-2259 Anonymous Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:47:00 +0000 http://www.epltalk.com/2007/06/29/argentina-4-1-united-states-the-harsh-reality/#comment-2259 US should have played their first squad last night. What better way to find our where you really stand than to play Landon, Boca, Beasley and Dempsey against a top 5 team in the world. Plus, the Argentinians played their starting 11. <br/> Argentina, to be honest, looked old and predictable. They have at least 5 players-Ayla, Crespo, Riquelme, Veron, Sanetti, who are over 30. That is not the way to go. Thank god for Messi to lift them up. US should have played their first squad last night. What better way to find our where you really stand than to play Landon, Boca, Beasley and Dempsey against a top 5 team in the world. Plus, the Argentinians played their starting 11.
Argentina, to be honest, looked old and predictable. They have at least 5 players-Ayla, Crespo, Riquelme, Veron, Sanetti, who are over 30. That is not the way to go. Thank god for Messi to lift them up.

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