FA Cup Fourth Round Saturday, Open Thread

britain soccer premier league FA Cup Fourth Round Saturday, Open Thread

The fourth round of the FA Cup today offers too very explosive matches for all of the wrong reasons. Let’s hope the off-the-field drama involving QPR and Chelsea plus Liverpool and Manchester United doesn’t spill over to the pitch. The sooner we get the handshake or no handshake behind us, as well as the whole Patrice Evra incident, the better. Today should be a day to concentrate our focus back on the football that’s played on the pitch.

For viewers in the United States, there’ll be three other FA Cup games televised in addition to QPR/Chelsea and Liverpool/Man United. Those are Leicester against Swindon (a battle between two up-and-coming teams), Derby against Stoke City (a chance for American-owned Derby to try to get a Premier League scalp) and then, last but not least, Brighton against Newcastle. Brighton manager Gus Poyet’s side started off the season very well, but may find it too tough to beat Newcastle at their brand-new stadium. However, if Newcastle’s defense plays anything like they did against Fulham last week, anything is possible.

Starting line-ups:

Manchester United: De Gea, Rafael, Smalling, Evans, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Park, Welbeck.

Liverpool: Reina, Kelly, Enrique, Agger, Skrtel, Carragher, Henderson, Gerrard, Downing, Maxi, Carroll.

Before, during and after today’s FA Cup matches, post your rants, raves, questions and observations in the comments section below.

51 Responses

  1. QPR_Fan
    QPR_Fan
    January 28, 2012 at 6:39 am | | Reply


    GO QPR!!!

  2. CPofL
    CPofL
    January 28, 2012 at 6:50 am | | Reply


    Can’t see anything other than a resounding Chelsea win today.
    QPR are thankfully going to get relegated back to the league where they belong.

    1. QPR_Fan
      QPR_Fan
      January 28, 2012 at 8:14 am | | Reply


      still 0 – 0 @ 55:00

  3. QPR_Fan
    QPR_Fan
    January 28, 2012 at 8:20 am | | Reply


    WTF?!?!?!

  4. The Gaffer
    January 28, 2012 at 8:25 am | | Reply


    I wish the booing of Evra would stop. Like Mark Lawrenson said on BBC Five Live, enough is enough. Let’s get on with the game instead of constantly booing Evra. The French left back got the message.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  5. The Gaffer
    January 28, 2012 at 8:27 am | | Reply


    Ji Sung Park coming up big in another big match. He always is United’s clutch player.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  6. brn442
    brn442
    January 28, 2012 at 9:11 am | | Reply


    Two Subs and Downing is still on the pitch?

  7. Taylor
    Taylor
    January 28, 2012 at 9:34 am | | Reply


    Evra has become liability defensively

  8. Jason
    Jason
    January 28, 2012 at 9:54 am | | Reply


    For all of Manchester United’s possession, 57%, they didn’t create too much. Very disappointing. Evra’s poor defending against Kuyt cost them the game.

    The booing of Evra was actaully not as loud as that of Terry in the Chelsea-QPR game. At least as heard on TV.

    I thoroughly enjoyed the Liverpool-United game. Typical FA Cup tie and both teams did their part in making sure it was a hard-fought game. Also was nice to see the players being professional and not let the Suarez-Evra situation affect them on the pitch. This is the type of game with all the passion on display that more Americans should be exposed to. Nothing like it. Well done to both teams for a well-played game.

    Now let’s hope Sunderland win tomorrow.

  9. jtm371
    jtm371
    January 28, 2012 at 10:30 am | | Reply


    DeGea is the highest paid #2 goaltender in the BPL.he was awful today.M Kelly has a lot of potential good pace and strong body.if you can fault SAF he can not pick out goaltenders he does not have a good track record.i know Peter S and Van Dar Sar after those two a whole lot of nothing.

    1. brn442
      brn442
      January 28, 2012 at 11:21 am | | Reply


      jtm, DeGea was not awful – he was nervous and wanting of confidence – yes. He probably could have been more decisive on the first goal but he is not the reason they lost today.

    2. Matt
      Matt
      January 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm | | Reply


      You’re forgetting this American kid he saw that now plays for that tiny club called Everton…

      De Gea is in desperate need for a loan out. Right now Lindegaard is playing at a significantly higher level.

  10. spenghali
    spenghali
    January 28, 2012 at 11:58 am | | Reply


    Maybe if De Gea wasn’t busy giving Carrol a giant push in the back he would have saved Agger’s header that trimmed his hair.

  11. jtm371
    jtm371
    January 28, 2012 at 12:04 pm | | Reply


    so if he was to blame for the first goal would the match ended 1/1.his distribution was awful he gave away a corner that he could have let go.he did not know if he could pick up the ball or if it was a back pass.DeGea is immature and weak no command of his area.don’t forget he is paid to do his job he is not a apprentice.you don’t come to MUFC to build your confidence

    1. brn442
      brn442
      January 28, 2012 at 4:27 pm | | Reply


      JTM, your points are well taken, I’m not going to argue for DeGea, he’s not a typical Manchester United type keeper, how Sir Alex allowed Manuel Neur to slip through his hands is beyond me. Years later, I’m still scratching my head on how Fergie didn’t get Van der Sar the first time round from Juve.

      I was surprised that Lindergaard did not start. As Matt said, perhaps the Spaniard should be loaned out to get some rhythm and confidence back – he needs to be built up in the gym during the summer, he’s far too (physically) lightweight to be a top keeper in the PL.

      1. jtm371
        jtm371
        January 28, 2012 at 5:01 pm | | Reply


        i did not think i was way off base.i agree loan him out the only problem with that think of the stick SAF would take.how SAF could not get Neur is beyond me.Lindergaard has to see out the rest of the season if they think they can catch city.great post!ENJOY

      2. Taylor
        Taylor
        January 30, 2012 at 12:02 pm | | Reply


        Neuer always wants to go to Bayern, like most of German players. Fergie wanted to get VDS straight from Juve but VDS had a horrible time at Juve that he wanted to be in a “more relaxed” atmosphere.
        I personally wanted Fergie to sign Marten Stekelenburg from Ajax: he’s experienced and more, he’s cheap (his contract ran out last summer). De Gea reminds me of David James

  12. dani
    dani
    January 28, 2012 at 12:18 pm | | Reply


    Credit to Dalglish and Ferguson shaking hands amicably and smiling at each other before the game. Helped ease the tension loads. The booing of Evra wasn’t ideal, but it was to be expected. Liverpool players looked tired and the pace of the game was almost at a crawl compared to the City game, as United did not ever really seem to kick into gear either despite all the possession. A draw would’ve been a fair result, but luckily for Liverpool, Kuyt got his 50th goal at the death and crucially, the winner. All in all, surprisingly clean game with only one booking? and a lot of effort even if the quality was lacking at times. The Manc clubs seem to be having their own little tit tat game going on at the moment but nice way to cap off what has been a great week for Liverpool.

    1. Taylor
      Taylor
      January 28, 2012 at 7:46 pm | | Reply


      There’s always a mutual respect between Dalglish and Fergie. Heck, anyone ever read Dalglish autobiography and notice who wrote the forewood ? No other than Fergie.
      A lot of people/fans could learn from this. They might not like each other, they might be extremely competitive but there’s always a certain degree of respect. And fans need to learn to respect: it’s ok to dislike but let’s leave the hate, soccer it’s too beautiful for that.

  13. Trickybrkn
    Trickybrkn
    January 28, 2012 at 12:29 pm | | Reply


    Did you hear that Carlos Tevez is coming back to West Ham?

    1. ThompsonLives
      ThompsonLives
      January 28, 2012 at 1:43 pm | | Reply


      Nah, I heard he preferred Millwall.

      1. trickybrkn
        trickybrkn
        January 28, 2012 at 1:59 pm | | Reply


        who?

  14. ThompsonLives
    ThompsonLives
    January 28, 2012 at 1:41 pm | | Reply


    When is the fifth-round draw?

  15. trickybrkn
    trickybrkn
    January 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm | | Reply


    Come on Brighton…

  16. Todd
    Todd
    January 28, 2012 at 2:08 pm | | Reply


    For all his hard work, Carroll looked about as average as it gets. It’s almost as if he’s not capable of anything better…

  17. David
    David
    January 28, 2012 at 3:18 pm | | Reply


    Carroll only came alive in the last few minutes. Otherwise he was mediocre. maybe today’s win might give him the confidence to push forward. I thought the commenattor who kept criticizing carroll for his lack of mobility and positioning was right on the money.

  18. Colin
    Colin
    January 28, 2012 at 3:21 pm | | Reply


    Carrol should have his supposed aerial dominance to win balls, something he was quite ineffective with this afternoon gaffer, isn’t that the role of a center forward? To win those 50/50 aerial battles against the likes of Carrick, Evans, and even Scholes and to hold up play up top?. Regardless if he played provider for Kuyt’s winner, the lethargic big oaf was average at best on this day

  19. Jack Tomczuk
    January 28, 2012 at 3:48 pm | | Reply


    Praise goes to referee Mark Halsey. After all the criticism for referees in recent weeks, we should compliment a referee who does a great job. It was a fast-paced match full of excitement and back and forth playe. This was because Halsey refrained from hiding behind the cards. Everyone is so quick is jump down referee’s throats these days, but Halsey allowed the game to flow.

  20. DaveG
    DaveG
    January 28, 2012 at 5:30 pm | | Reply


    Andy Carrol…second touch is a tackle

    1. Andy
      Andy
      January 28, 2012 at 11:50 pm | | Reply


      Brilliant!

  21. JC
    JC
    January 29, 2012 at 2:08 am | | Reply


    I watched the match late tonight, so this post is a bit behind everyone else, but let me just say, I found the booing of Evra to be quite despicable. A stadium full of white people booing a black guy for speaking out about being racially abused by another player….hardly a shining moment in football history. I’m sure it’s not indicative of all the people of Liverpool, nor all their fans, but it was rather an uncomfortable thing to watch.

    1. Has
      Has
      January 29, 2012 at 2:23 am | | Reply


      Wait till liverpool go to OT. You’ll see a stadium full of white people booing a south American!

    2. Aaron
      Aaron
      January 29, 2012 at 9:52 am | | Reply


      They’ve ALWAYS booed Evra, though it was definitely louder this time. So what? LFC supporters do not feel the case made by the commission on the FA’s behalf was at all proven, and to be sure, there’s not a single person in this or any other board who can point to a scintilla of proof other than hearsay. Evra takes the brunt of this enchantment because he’s become the symbol of a farcical process where, in England, such cases are supposed to be legally ironclad, a la Terry. If this case didn’t have sufficient evidence that the legal system MANDATES in cases of racism, it should not have been levied. THAT’S why LFC supporters are adamant in their support of Suarez.

      1. Clampdown
        Clampdown
        January 29, 2012 at 10:38 am | | Reply


        Thank you. I don’t know why this is so hard for people to understand.

        I’m perplexed by the criticisms being leveled at Liverpool fans for booing Evra. Should they have cheered him and presented him with a bouquet of flowers? For f*cks sake, it’s just booing. If poor fragile Patrice can’t keep his head on straight because of that then that’s his problem.

  22. David
    David
    January 29, 2012 at 8:08 am | | Reply


    JC, you obviously know very little about soccer fans in Britain. If you think the booing was bad you should try and listen to the chants by fans. It’s much worse. Actually, even United fans are bad towards one of their own when they sing about Park, their S. Korean player, and sing about him eating dogs which is not well received by S. Koreans.

    1. MNUfan1991
      MNUfan1991
      January 29, 2012 at 9:30 pm | | Reply


      I don’t think David quite understands British humo(u)r.

      Celebrating Park’s heritage AND having a dig at the Scousers… all in the same chant. That’s bloody brilliant!

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