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  1. Rami S.
    Rami S.
    May 24, 2010 at 3:19 pm | | Reply


    Many were asking me on which channel the game was showing and I was even unsure till the last few days when I confirmed with you. Some were thinking Fox Soccer Channel would have it on while others assumed it will be on ESPN network

  2. Dan
    Dan
    May 24, 2010 at 3:31 pm | | Reply


    I’m not sure I buy the “soccer fans didn’t know what channel the game was on” rationale to explain the rating. If you don’t know but want to watch the game, it should take you about 30 seconds to find the right channel. The pre-game show on FSC made it quite clear that the game was on FOX.

  3. Mat
    Mat
    May 24, 2010 at 3:32 pm | | Reply


    DirecTV had it listed as FSC at least through the day before.

    1. Jay
      Jay
      May 25, 2010 at 1:49 am | | Reply


      THAT IS A LIE!

      it clearly showed on the guide “UEFA Champions League Soccer” at 1130. That is exactly how it shows up when I recorded it.

  4. V
    V
    May 24, 2010 at 3:40 pm | | Reply


    Bruce Arena should not be on television or any position that requires him to speak, he was abysmal.

    But overall I was impressed with the presentation by FOX.

    1. The Gaffer
      May 24, 2010 at 3:46 pm | | Reply


      I agree V about Bruce Arena. He should not be on television. Seems like a nice enough bloke, but he’s not cut out for TV. Read more of my analysis of Fox’s coverage of the Champions League Final here:

      http://www.epltalk.com/inter-milan-v-bayern-munich-champions-league-final-open-thread/19902

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

      1. AtlantaPompey
        AtlantaPompey
        May 24, 2010 at 5:27 pm | | Reply


        Why would the Galaxy allow their manager to leave training to fly to Europe to be on camera for a few minutes for a match that doesn’t promote the MLS or the team? Next thing you’ll tell me is that they will let injured players fly to South Africa to give out books and shake hands to promote another country’s World Cup bid in direct competition to our World Cup Bid!

        Is anyone with any sense living in Los Angeles?

        1. Dewie
          Dewie
          May 24, 2010 at 8:09 pm | | Reply


          One word: cash. That takes precedence in whatever decision Galaxy makes and coincidentally that’s the only thing they’re about. Not football.

        2. sucka99
          May 25, 2010 at 3:03 pm | | Reply


          or climb into tanks and kick soccer balls in Afghanistan

  5. CR7
    CR7
    May 24, 2010 at 3:45 pm | | Reply


    Curt Menefee was bad as well,

    Inter winning the “Triple Crown”, had me going.

  6. fsquid
    fsquid
    May 24, 2010 at 3:47 pm | | Reply


    That is a disappointing rating.

  7. Carmello
    Carmello
    May 24, 2010 at 4:05 pm | | Reply


    Some of Menefee’s presentation was a bit embarrassing too. “It’s one to nothing, as we say here in America.”

    Come on dude, seriously?

    Honestly though, I normally dislike Wynalda and the hysterics he brings to any commentary or analysis, but he did a right fine job on Saturday.

    1. Clampdown
      Clampdown
      May 24, 2010 at 4:13 pm | | Reply


      Agreed. That line from Menefee made me cringe. I didn’t have high hopes for him, though, after watching him on Fox Football Fone-in as he showed a lack of insight and repeated some lazy generalizations.

      Waldo has grown on me, and I thought he was pretty good.

      I would comment on what Arena had to say, but since I can barely understand anything he mumbles, I can’t.

  8. JJ
    JJ
    May 24, 2010 at 4:07 pm | | Reply


    What i found off was why did Fox Soccer channel show a pre-game to the final but did not show the game until 7pm central. While on FSC-Espaniol it was on live. O and then they FSC has a post game show. Didn’t understand that at all.

    1. sucka99
      May 25, 2010 at 7:50 pm | | Reply


      because the game was live on Fox, not FSC. See ESPN’s treatment of the Super Bowl

  9. The Gentleman Masher
    The Gentleman Masher
    May 24, 2010 at 4:08 pm | | Reply


    I just hope Fox gives this 2 or 3 years to ramp up…making good on their hint that they would show more international soccer on the main Fox Network would certainly help.

    Also – if we end up with something like Chelsea, Arsenal or Man U vs. Real Madrid or Barca, that would make a huge difference as well.

    1. sucka99
      May 25, 2010 at 7:52 pm | | Reply


      problem is, the only thing they can show is stuff that peels ratings away from FSC. Their best option is a Big-4 clash on Saturday at 12:30pm and that would decapitate FSC’s ratings.

  10. equus
    equus
    May 24, 2010 at 4:29 pm | | Reply


    Also, 2:30 ET on a Saturday afternoon means a lot of soccer fans are attending, playing or coaching soccer, not watching the game on TV. It’s tough no matter if during the week or on the weekend in this country.

  11. CTBlues
    CTBlues
    May 24, 2010 at 4:49 pm | | Reply


    None of my friends turned on the game because who was playing. We all root for Chelsea, but I’m the only real diehard out of the group and will watch just to help the ratings or if its a high profile game.

  12. El
    El
    May 24, 2010 at 4:59 pm | | Reply


    I don’t think you have to be “diehard” to watch a UEFA Champions League Final that doesn’t feature any teams you support.

  13. WSW
    WSW
    May 24, 2010 at 5:53 pm | | Reply


    Didn’t last year’s CL final beat Super Bowl’s ratings…

    1. The Gaffer
      May 24, 2010 at 10:09 pm | | Reply


      In worldwide ratings, yes.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  14. Dave
    Dave
    May 24, 2010 at 6:43 pm | | Reply


    American media honchos need to understand that the best way you present a sport is through formulas which work already, I.e. Not trying to wrench menefee into something with which he obviously isn’t familiar. ie staying w barton wynalda etc and not overloading w new personalities. there is no need to beg the public to watch, u just look desperate

  15. BobbyB
    BobbyB
    May 24, 2010 at 7:30 pm | | Reply


    I don’t buy the “I don’t know which channel it’s on” excuse. Even if that’s true, how hard is it to do an internet search to find out? If you turn on your TV, almost everybody has program guide through their cable/satellite TV company – it’s pretty easy to scroll through and see where the game is (or do a search). It’s not rocket science.

    Fact is, people didn’t watch cause they didn’t want to watch.

    1. The Gaffer
      May 25, 2010 at 12:24 am | | Reply


      Bobby, the majority of people who were “in the know” knew which channel it was going to be on, but there were some – yes, some – who didn’t know (based on e-mails and tweets I received on the day of the final).

      Plus, originally the final was supposed to be on FX, but was changed to Fox. Next year, though, more people will know it’s on Fox.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

      1. man99utd
        man99utd
        May 25, 2010 at 6:59 am | | Reply


        Gaffer,

        Could the ratings let-down be due to the limited number of people who watched the knockout stage. I discovered yesterday that FOX, et al drew 50% less than ESPN the previous year. If people cannot watch the knockout stage they certainly won’t be looking for the final. FSC cannot reach the same amount of people as ESPN even when using FSN. This is not a knock against FOX just a fact.

        1. The Gaffer
          May 25, 2010 at 9:56 am | | Reply


          man99utd, excellent point. I hadn’t thought of it that way, but it makes complete sense. Great observation.

          Cheers,
          The Gaffer

  16. Cabrito
    Cabrito
    May 24, 2010 at 11:18 pm | | Reply


    What about all the people watching the game at bars?

    1. The Gaffer
      May 25, 2010 at 12:36 am | | Reply


      Cabrito, I don’t believe the ratings numbers consider people in bars. Only households.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

      1. winstongator
        winstongator
        May 25, 2010 at 2:17 pm | | Reply


        Plus, comparing to last year or other events, you have the same measurement criteria.

  17. coachie ballgames
    May 25, 2010 at 1:52 am | | Reply


    No way around it, the rating is a letdown. I thought it would certainly far outpace the hockey game; but it’s like you said in your other piece earlier Gaffer, the game will only continue to grow in the U.S.
    Backing up what equus said tho, there were fans involved in playing Saturday afternoon who DVRd the game for viewing later in the afternoon.

  18. Casey G.
    Casey G.
    May 25, 2010 at 2:53 am | | Reply


    just curious to know the ratings of the other previous finals that were on ESPN2 like from ’03-’08?? since last year was on ESPN

    my guess would be that ’04 would be the lowest between Monaco and Porto

  19. It's pronounced yoo-EFF-a
    It's pronounced yoo-EFF-a
    May 25, 2010 at 4:47 am | | Reply


    It was very disrespectful of Menefee to call Inter Milan “the best in the world”. The World Club Championship exists for that purpose. He obviously didn’t know that, which showed that he shouldn’t have been anywhere near Madrid in the 1st place.

    What FOX should now do is show the Final of the Liberators Cup, and treat U.S. fans to what a real continental competition Final is like. Once casual fans get to see the Finals of both main continental competitions, that should whet their appetites to see both Champions clash for the World Title in Abu Dhabi. Then FOX can show that as well, and get some decent ratings.

  20. tk
    tk
    May 25, 2010 at 4:53 am | | Reply


    i had no interest in the game.i knew that inter and bayern do not offer spectacular styles of football but i still turn-on my tv just to support football in general

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