36 Responses

  1. Phil McThomas
    August 14, 2008 at 8:54 am | | Reply


    I don’t have a problem with expensive cars and big houses. If it doesn’t affect other people, how they spend their money is their business.

    Some people in this world are richer than others. Fact of life. Gerrard won some kind of lottery with his phyique and skill, but he’s also had to work hard to get what he earns.

    The minute a player starts driving their car at 80 in a town center after a skinful of beers..well..you can lock them up for me.

  2. ChrissMari
    August 14, 2008 at 9:09 am | | Reply


    Premiership clubs make a lot of money on the backs of their players. If the players were making 25 grand a year we’d be outraged at all the money the bosses were making off the sweat of their workers without giving them their fair share — to put it in factory terms, just slide the scale up a bit.

    If there’s a market for it and that’s what the market will pay I have no issue with that.

    I wouldn’t have a crazy gym with all my millions but I’m not going to begrudge someone the chance to build one.

    His crazy neighbor needs to stfu.

  3. Bryan
    Bryan
    August 14, 2008 at 9:28 am | | Reply


    Well they earned it..the way they spend their millions is their prerogative.

  4. Kyle
    Kyle
    August 14, 2008 at 9:30 am | | Reply


    Oh no! Not a gym!!!

  5. Lonnie
    Lonnie
    August 14, 2008 at 9:38 am | | Reply


    I’d rather see Gerrard invest money into his home/property then watch him blow it on booze, drugs and gambling. All impressions seem to be that he is a hard-working decent fellow, who as Phil points out is being richly rewarded for his physical skills.

    I don’t see this as any different than film/TV actors who command huge salaries. They buy themselves lavish homes and cars as well. It seems like a lot of money to us working joes but their scale of economy is quite different than ours.

    The gym might look ugly to some but it does include some interesting architectural elements:

    “Gerrard won planning permission after including plans to install a living ‘sedum roof’, which includes grass, moss and other plants and helps cut fuel bills by keeping the building warmer in the winter.”

  6. sean
    sean
    August 14, 2008 at 9:40 am | | Reply


    Why is it such a bug deal if he spends his money like this?

    He had to work extremely hard to get to where he is now, and you think he should live in a 2 bedroom apartment??

    Of course not, and it also makes sense for him to build a gym. Especially for in the off season, its a good way to stay at top shape with out having to drive to the training fields and back,

  7. jm
    jm
    August 14, 2008 at 9:58 am | | Reply


    I sympathize with the Gaffer’s point, but I think it is unfair to lay the blame so squarely on the athletes themselves. The problems here are institutional, with the amount of money in sport and that the costs are mostly placed on us, the ticketholders.

    As ChrissMari rightly points out, the money is either going to the incredibly wealthy owners, or to the wealthy players. The problem, then, is in the structure.

  8. jim
    jim
    August 14, 2008 at 10:06 am | | Reply


    U Mad?

  9. Chris
    Chris
    August 14, 2008 at 10:41 am | | Reply


    Maybe it’s time we gave up on capitalism and democracy too. Let’s all take a vow of poverty and promise to never enjoy ourselves ever. Who’s with me???

  10. Hank
    Hank
    August 14, 2008 at 10:48 am | | Reply


    Athletes are making millions of and buying mansions?! If only I had known that before watching them on TV, buying their jerseys, and paying to see them play!

    Uhmm…

    Anyway, isn’t this blog called “epltalk”? If we all started watching pickup games in our local park, where would I come to read articles like this? :)

  11. Raatzie
    Raatzie
    August 14, 2008 at 11:53 am | | Reply


    Society places a high value on the players vis-a-vis other professions. Whether it should is debatable, but entirely another question. I agree that of all the ways Stevie G might spend his money, this isn’t really near the obttom of the list.

  12. tyduffy
    August 14, 2008 at 12:22 pm | | Reply


    I don’t really have that much problem with a gym. It’s not as though he can pop down to the local gym without being mobbed.

  13. The Gaffer
    August 14, 2008 at 12:50 pm | | Reply


    So no one here is disgusted by the exorbitant amounts of cash that these players are earning and how they’re spending their money on cars, mansions and the like?

    No one finds this excessive at all?

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  14. Simon Burke
    Simon Burke
    August 14, 2008 at 1:01 pm | | Reply


    Sorry gaffer, its not exactly news to anyone. What did you think they were earning? You thought they gave it all to charity? In a perfect world my friend but in real life its fast cars, nice houses, bigger houses which are still nice and then the racetrack. I am not so offended by it unless its flaunted at me.

  15. mike
    August 14, 2008 at 1:11 pm | | Reply


    Sure it’s excessive what rich people buy, but a $700,000 gym is pretty low on the frivolous spending scale. It would be great if every wealthy person gave back to charities or lived more modestly, but then that is a challenge to everyone living in the West if we’re honest.

    If you are upset about how much money players and teams make, then vote with your wallet and don’t buy their merchandise, tickets, etc.

  16. Jordan
    Jordan
    August 14, 2008 at 1:15 pm | | Reply


    I would rather see the Players be greatly rewarded than the team owners. If the players didnt make as much more would go to ownership.

  17. Chris
    Chris
    August 14, 2008 at 1:28 pm | | Reply


    Wow Gaffer, interesting choice of words. Disgusting…sickening. You must really despise professional athletes.

    People get paid what they are worth, in all walks of life. Like an earlier poster said, he has a skillset that is incredibly rare. His skillset also happens to be incredibly valuable, which is why he gets paid so much. His home and gym cost him less than half a year’s wages from the club. My home certainly cost a larger percentage of my income than his did. I personally don’t know anybody that has a home that cost a smaller percentage of their income than his did.

    What would you have Steven Gerrard do with his money? Why shouldn’t he be able to spend his hard earned money to improve his home? Should he not spend his money in an attempt to not offend jealous onlookers?

  18. AtlantaPompey
    AtlantaPompey
    August 14, 2008 at 1:52 pm | | Reply


    I don’t begrudge anyone the right to spend their money how they see fit, as long they are acting within social norms, or at least being private about it so I don’t have to hear. If Stevie G wants to build a gym, fine with me. If he wants to give it away to charity, fine with me. If he wants to give it to me, really fine with me.

    Everybody does things with their money that others might find wierd. I spend $100 a month on Directv’s HD package plus the sports packages so I can watch the EPL. I know lots of people who think that strange. One person’s normal is another’s strange.

  19. Lonnie
    August 14, 2008 at 2:13 pm | | Reply


    This article caught my eye….very topical :)

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/footballs-richest-clubs-pay-poverty-wages-to-backroom-staff-894510.html

  20. Karthik Balasubramanian
    Karthik Balasubramanian
    August 14, 2008 at 2:51 pm | | Reply


    its his money.. he can spend it how he wants.. if ur really sick to your bones.. dont watch him play.. if more of you think that way.. maybe stadium attendances will fall and liverpool may not be able to pay him those astronomical wages..

    Its not right to blame the footballer for the money he is making.. the average football fan has become football crazy in terms of spending money.. u cant have the best of both worlds my friend..

  21. jm
    jm
    August 14, 2008 at 3:28 pm | | Reply


    Gaffer,

    I have some sympathy with your position. I, after all, do not think it is right for people to do “whatever they want with their money.” (Note, however, that this does not license the government to tell people what to do with their money either, something can be wrong and your own business – e.g., an extramarital affair).

    I think part of my negative reaction is that I think it is missing the forest for the trees to look at how Premier League players spend their money. The issue seems to me to be that the game is awash with money, at costs all passed on to the consumer through ticket prices, television rates, etc. Within that institution I’d actually rather the players are the ones getting the money than the owners, and I’m also not “sickened” by people failing to live up to ethical standards I know so very few of us manage to. What sickens me is the general social trends in the stratification of wealth, particularly here in the States.

  22. 50
    50
    August 14, 2008 at 3:45 pm | | Reply


    pay attention to american sports much?
    EPL wages are nothing comapared to what NBA,NFL,& MLB players make…….and flaunting? the NBA instated a dress code just to tone down how the players looked coming & going from games.

  23. Raatzie
    Raatzie
    August 14, 2008 at 4:10 pm | | Reply


    @ Chris:

    It’s not that people get paid what they’re worth. It’s that people get paid the value assigned them by society. Lots of folks (police, fire, teachers) get paid less than their value to society. But it is what it is. Like I said, whether it should b otherwise is another matter.

  24. LemmusLemmus
    August 14, 2008 at 4:51 pm | | Reply


    “So no one here is disgusted by the exorbitant amounts of cash that these players are earning and how they’re spending their money on cars, mansions and the like?

    No one finds this excessive at all?”

    I’m not, and I don’t. Like many people, you seem to think that you know what the “right” or “fair” wage for doing something is. I believe there used to be an experiment along those lines in the 20th century; it didn’t work. I, for one, am glad I live in a market economy.

    And I can find nothing wrong with a person spending his honestly earned money on a gym. If he commits assault, that’s a different issue.

  25. Adam
    Adam
    August 14, 2008 at 7:47 pm | | Reply


    This article’s ridiculous. Next time Steven Gerrard trips over his wallet on the pitch, post this.

  26. Eladio
    Eladio
    August 14, 2008 at 10:19 pm | | Reply


    Gaffer, would you prefer that the players get paid 40k/year, and the owners pad their pockets even more? There’s a lot of money to be made in the EPL, and I’d much rather it be spread around to the players than the owners hording it all.

  27. Steve Colclough
    Steve Colclough
    August 14, 2008 at 11:46 pm | | Reply


    Wow, Gaffer. Never took you as a closet socialist. In case you haven’t figured it out yet, it’s the fans who willingly choose to pay what they pay to watch these footballers play. In your world, who should reap the benefits? Maybe require the proceeds from television contracts, ticket sales, and licensed apparel be redistributed amongst society? Or perhaps governments should just set a cap on what athletes are allowed to earn, thereby reducing the incentive for some of these guys to work so hard to become brilliant athletes and diminish the interest in sport which creates a market for those who earn their livelihoods by running websites which celebrate the exploits of the world’s sportsmen.

  28. j
    j
    August 15, 2008 at 12:41 am | | Reply


    If these guys are paid as much as we excitedly discuss they are paid, they must keep the money moving — what good is it just sitting in a bank? The banks are failing anyway. I’m sure the financial planners have advised the wealthy to invest the money in things that will re-invest by itself — not cars very much, but property always. It is obnoxious how much they are paid, but this is now an old topic.

  29. Brandon
    Brandon
    August 15, 2008 at 8:11 pm | | Reply


    I’m not going to knock anyone for how they spend their money. Especially pro athletes who spend their wages on lavish toys and the lot. There just happens to be a lot of money floating around. What are they supposed to do with it?

    I’d reckon that many of them, Stevie G included give a decent amount to charities and youth groups as well. Obviously that’s not going to reported as much.

    Disposable income is disposable income no matter how much money you have. If I blow some money on a DVD it’s the same as Gerrard buying a gym. We just happen to live in different economic planets. His just happens to be Mars.

  30. fatimaa
    fatimaa
    April 22, 2009 at 12:41 pm | | Reply


    its there money, they spend it the way they want to spend it,
    didnt they earn the money?so why shouldnt they spend it ,

    i think that steven gerrard has a evrey nice house and dont you people think that it might be hard fro all the pro athletes to pop down to the local gym where they will be followed by the press that just talk photos of these athletes.Maby its nice to have your own gym where there is no press its just you wroking out alone or with mates ??

  31. bahaa
    bahaa
    June 6, 2009 at 3:16 am | | Reply


    if i have more money i’ll give it to steven gerrad i love you man

  32. Josh
    Josh
    July 25, 2009 at 10:39 am | | Reply


    The lad is the best footballer in the world and earns something like 121,000 a week you know if you have this sort of money your going to want the best houses or mansions, best cars etc money well spent Stevie.

  33. T-Bull
    T-Bull
    July 25, 2009 at 1:08 pm | | Reply


    So tell us Karl Marx what is an appropriate amount of money to pay to a footballer, and how should he be allowed to spend it….. How about C.E.O.’s

    If we stop paying to watch football, players wont get paid, who is with me ?

  34. Cal
    Cal
    July 28, 2009 at 7:40 am | | Reply


    gerrard deserves the money he’s earning here after the amount of effort he’s put into getting where he is…
    that’s another thing I’ve noticed. the person who wrote this article is american, they should be used to big houses and expensive cars over there – that doesn’t mean they don’t have their slums or their run down areas, but all the same… 80% of Brits are living in small, semi-detached properties where we can only dream of big houses like there are all over the USA and houses like Gerrard own. But that’s the thing. Gerrard IS living the dream.

  35. steve
    steve
    October 2, 2009 at 4:55 am | | Reply


    The problem, as far as I can see, isn’t how Gerrard spends his money. I spend what money I have how I see fit, and Gerrard is entitled to do exactly the same. Whether his house/ gym are over the top and crass is a matter of taste – he obviously doesn’t think so. And as stated , there is a vast amount of money in top flight football nowadays and it is better that is it shared out among the players, than just given to shareholders / directors. People pay to watch the players after all. But I would be much happier if the costs were reduced so that it wasn’t so exhorbitant to watch a game. you could halve the turnstile costs at all major clubs, and the players would still be earning a fortune, yet people would be paying less to watch their favourite teams/players. However market forces mean that this is just not a realistic prospect- it’s a profit oriented business, like it or not, and profits exist to be maximised. At the expense or little old Joe Public. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it, but don’t just bitch out of jealousy – if you’re jealous of those with more money than you, you might as well be jealous of Bill Gates or The Sultan of Brunei. Life’s too short to think that way……

  36. steven crawford
    December 9, 2009 at 4:54 pm | | Reply


    my little brother plays for liverpool acadamy you have got to be the best player in the world m8 i wont you boots and top m8
    from steven crawford

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