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  1. edgar
    edgar
    July 21, 2009 at 3:13 pm | | Reply


    Interesting theory. Everyone is waiting to see for themselves.

  2. Jake
    July 21, 2009 at 4:04 pm | | Reply


    Good call. That’s certainly the formation and players I use when playing as City on FIFA 09 with the new transfers added. People who think City are just signing players willy nilly should examine the signings they’ve made as carefully as the author of this piece has. Add Lescott and/or Terry and/or Touré and you’ll see City aren’t far from a very complete squad with depth that would make a couple of Big Four sides jealous.

  3. Tyson
    Tyson
    July 21, 2009 at 4:59 pm | | Reply


    I think they are emulating Barcelona FC but the difference is they don’t have the quality in their ranks that Barcelona do.

    Barcelonas formation works so well due to the high quality players that play in the midfield and strike.

    I wouldn’t say Adebayor measures upto Eto’o and Robinho and Tevez are no Henry or Messi.

    Barry and Ireland wouldn’t be able to tie Xavi or Iniestas shoelace.

    The formation that Barcelona play just goes very well with the substantial quality of players they have and how well they work together. Barcelonas midfield and Xavi and Iniesta in particular really make it all work.

    For somebody else to emulate that formation with the success Barcelona have you have to match Barcelonas sheer quality and Manchester City is a country mile from signing players like Xavi or Messi.

  4. Anthony
    Anthony
    July 21, 2009 at 5:07 pm | | Reply


    you’re an idiot the barca formation is more than just 4 1 2 3 its about the players involved. The formation requires highly technical players able to recieve the ball in tight quarters, control it and evade challenges or distribute the ball extremely accurately. Man city only has two players like this robinho and elano

  5. Paul Bestall
    Paul Bestall
    July 21, 2009 at 6:22 pm | | Reply


    Unfortunately for City, they do not have Xavi.

  6. kenny
    kenny
    July 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm | | Reply


    Barry and Ireland are nowhere close to Xavi and Iniesta for implementing Barca’s system.

  7. Jeff
    Jeff
    July 21, 2009 at 8:12 pm | | Reply


    One, I think if anyone’s playing video game soccer here, it’s Florentino Perez. Two, isn’t the 4-1-2-3 destined to become the soccer equivalent of the spread offense in college football? Just like everyone adopted the spread after Urban Meyer had success with it at Utah and Florida, everyone will be playing around with the 4-1-2-3 in a few years now that Barca crushed everyone with it. Hughes and Man City just happen to be the first.

  8. Dave Warner
    July 21, 2009 at 8:38 pm | | Reply


    Jeff: Or like everyone started adopting the Wildcat formation in the NFL once the Miami Dolphins started scoring touchdowns with it. Proof positive that all football codes are full of copycats.

  9. Jay
    Jay
    July 21, 2009 at 11:42 pm | | Reply


    Ha ha. A typically English article. At least think before comparing the players of Barcelona and Man City.

    Sad that it doesn’t even take a treble to convince people about how Barcelona are a class apart from any team in the world today, including Real Madrid.

  10. wllmhll
    July 22, 2009 at 1:17 am | | Reply


    they dont have xavi or messi.

  11. Stu
    Stu
    July 22, 2009 at 4:09 am | | Reply


    These articles are becomes pretty common on EPLTalk as of late. One step closer to unsubscribing…

    There are roughly 6 weeks of the transfer window left. If there are that many strikers left at the club then, then this article may hold some ground. Did you expect Hughes to ship out forwards before signing new ones and risk unguaranteed replacements?

    I expect Robinho, Tevez, RSC, Bellamy, Adebayor and Bojinov to be there come 1st Sept. Caicedo is probably going out on loan, Jo is on loan, Evans is blatantly out of the door, Benjani will probably get sold too. Bellamy was signed in January mainly because he was the best available at that time and City needed goals. Simple, he was mainly used for those 6 months. Hughes did not sign him in Jan as his no1 striker for years to come.

    Another thing to consider in your article and the comments is this. The English league is faster and more aggressive than the Spanish league. Put Barcelona’s CL winning team into the Premiership and you cannot guarantee they’ll win it. Vice-versa, the same. Two different leagues built on different ways of playing the game.

    The typical shouts of Hughes just overloading on forwards is ignorant too. Lescott, Lucio and Terry have been well documented. With Onuoha, Kompany, Dunne, Richards, Garrido, Bridge, Tal Ben Haim and Zabaleta already, is Hughes just trying to fill a team full of defenders too? No, continual improvement.

  12. ulizinho
    July 22, 2009 at 4:16 am | | Reply


    Nice idea, you always should learn from the best!
    We’ll see how the original and the clone will play vs each other at the Joan Gamper trophy on 19 August in Barcelona

  13. Stu
    Stu
    July 22, 2009 at 4:16 am | | Reply


    And finally, the cries of City copycatting the 4-1-2-3. Go look at City’s formation from when Hughes took over all the way back in August to May of this year…4-1-2-3. the same was mostly used under Sven too.

    Hart
    Onuoha, Richards/Kompany, Dunne, Bridge
    Zabaleta/Kompany
    Ireland, Elano/DeJong/Kompany
    SWP Robinho
    Jo/Bellamy/Benjani/Caidedo

  14. Ian
    Ian
    July 22, 2009 at 5:13 am | | Reply


    A good article. It’s tough to know how Hughes will try and fit his players into an actual team. City tried to play attacking football at home last year, and I’m sure they will be good to watch this year too.

    They might best playing a main target man (Ade or Santa Claus/Cruz) with Robino and Tevez playing behind him. Then they could have Barry on the left in midfield, Ireland the right, and De Jong in the centre.

    It’s the defence where they are lacking. Two top quality CBs are needed, and if they don’t get Terry or Lescott (decent, but overpriced) they need to spread the net further afield.

  15. Beautifulgamer
    July 22, 2009 at 6:44 am | | Reply


    I’d say Hughes is building more a team like Real Madrid’s. A team top heavy with talent. You cannot just buy and produce Barcelona football in a calendar year. It is a special brand of football based mostly on homegrown players playing the Barca way. Now that formula doesn’t ensure that Barca always wins trophies. Mind you, people shouldn’t assume that City or Real will not be able to win trophies just by spending. They could win trophies quickly. It’s just that they won’t necessarily do it playing Barca’s unique and beautiful brand of football.

  16. Nash
    Nash
    July 22, 2009 at 2:39 pm | | Reply


    Here is another interesting article I read very similar to the one posted. Should we really stick with Hughes is a bigger question. Because as the number of stars in our team sheet goes up, we do need a manager of much higher quality and experience.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/221697-citys-strikers-too-huge-to-mark-a-manchester-city-conundrum

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