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  1. AtlantaPompey
    AtlantaPompey
    December 16, 2009 at 8:59 am | | Reply


    I find it hilarious that so many supporters are focused on finishing high enough to earn a European berth when the clubs clearly don’t care about the UEFA Cup/Europa League. It’s a shame that they don’t, for the very reasons you wrote about. However, the only real solution is for UEFA to fine teams for playing reserves and showing obvious disinterest. Taking away European spots from leagues who’s teams don’t put forth an effort would get their attention. Managers would stop griping about midweek away fixtures when Saturday’s clash against so-and-so is just the most important match of the year.

    If the second tier tourney is valued so little, let the teams decline to play in it. Put teams in there, even if they are second place Romanian teams or whatever, and let the compete. Matches are always more compelling when both teams want to win.

    And yes, we thoroughly enjoyed winning the FA Cup, traveling to Portugal and Germany, and getting AC Milan at home. Wonderful memories to help get us through the mess that’s going on now.

  2. David
    David
    December 16, 2009 at 10:48 am | | Reply


    I’ve learned to trust Roy when it comes to transfers, team selection and what have you. His reasoning in this case makes no sense. We beat United last year, and we haven’t been able to consistently do so ever. We’re top 10 in the league, and in absolutely no danger of being relegated (never thought I’d say that in the five years I’ve been following the club), and we have a chance in a winner take all match to go forth in a home/away series against a top quality opponent with TV revenue and all the other goodies. Now I ask, why the hell not go for it at the risk of what Wolves did over the weekend against United? Only this time, it would be for a spot in the Europa League knockout rounds.

    Do the right thing, Roy.

  3. Peter
    Peter
    December 16, 2009 at 11:14 am | | Reply


    Well we’ll see, but the fact of the matter is that he’s only got about 14 eligible outfield players to pick from tonight (from the first-team squad), because of injuries, suspension and ineligibilty — rendering the entire discussion above semi-academic. The main expected voluntary change from recently is to play Murphy and Etuhu in central midfield — injured of late, but, as you are doubtless aware, our first choice last season.

    Judge Hodgson by deeds, as opposed to words (which are a bit irritating in this case, agreed), and it’s not really been as you have depicted. Only in one match has a mainly reserve team been played — away to Sofia who proved the group whipping boys. Otherwise it’s been basically a full-strength team with a sprinkling of the better bench-warmers.

    1. Dave
      December 16, 2009 at 2:54 pm | | Reply


      Indeed, five starters from the weekend’s match at Burnley also started at Basel, and two other weekend starters (Dempsey and Duff) came off the bench for Fulham in the second half.

      Perhaps Hodgson was just lowering our expectations?

  4. PhillySpur
    PhillySpur
    December 16, 2009 at 11:18 am | | Reply


    The Europa/UEFA/NIT is a joke for the simple fact that most clubs don’t care. They get into it and then can’t wait to get out. I can’t say I blame them with how difficult it is in the league and all the money at stake. Have less teams, get rid of the group stages and maybe the clubs would be willing to go all out.

    1. Dave
      December 16, 2009 at 1:56 pm | | Reply


      Most ENGLISH clubs don’t care. The German, Spanish and Eastern European clubs actually compete to win the Europa League. I suspect if UEFA threatened to revoke one of England’s spots in this competition, the English clubs might start caring a bit more.

      Of course, I’ve always contended that if the Europa League were a gateway to the next season’s Champions League, EVERYONE would care, but I suspect this won’t happen anytime soon.

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