Comments on: Questions to Consider After Man United’s 1-0 Roma Win

By: Kartik

Kartik — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:09:57 +0000

Yes guys you are right. I mis-spoke. What I meant to say was that Britain has produced more great players than any other footballing nation in history but obviously not the majority of great players.

Now moving on, to answer an earlier reply where cherry picked results against Bundelsiga clubs were chosen to further the EPL argument. This is disingenuous on my part but no more disingenuous that the initial reply.

Recall Arsenal’s draw Slavia Prague? How about Chelsea with Rosenborg? What Liverpool’s defeat to Beshkitas in the same city as Liverpool’s greatest recent glory. What about United loss last year to Celtic and the near miss at Old Trafford for Celtic as well?

England’s clubs are riding high now, but the last time I checked Spain, Italy have won more champions league titles in the last 20 years. than English teams and Germany, Portugal and Holland have won as many.

My argument may seem faulty based on those isolated results but the Bundesliga bashing above was simply as short sighted and based on cherry picking facts or as I suspect with some of you never watching a Bundesliga match.

Recall last year The PL had three teams in the CL semifinals. Yet AC Milan reigned supreme. Even if England’s 3 reps claim a title this year, the league still is chasing Spain and Italy for overall glory and lack of the depth of PL is exposed every single year in the UEFA Cup (except that odd year when Liverpool falls to the UEFA Cup like 2000.)

By: Ivan

Ivan — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:28:28 +0000

BTW i think the confusion surrounds people who think i havent given enough credit to Man United. Man United are the best side in Europe at this moment in time, i thought that was a given….

By: Ivan

Ivan — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:24:39 +0000

Arsenal arent best side in England. I clarified what i said in my last msg and for the people who didn’t understand….. in my personal opinion man for man Barcelona squad is better than Man United’s thus when their players are playing to the potential we’ve seen them play in patches i still think they are the best team in Europe……

By: Dave M

Dave M — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:32:32 +0000

===Ivan=======
However Barcelona when they do decide to perform i believe are still this best side in Europe…
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…that and $4 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Just as Arsenal is the best team in England, but aren’t going to get any trophies.

By: The Scout

The Scout — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:06:23 +0000

I won’t go quite as far as the commenter above me but I do agree the remark “the majority of the great players in history are English, or actually British” is off the mark.

By: I agree with the Wanker

I agree with the Wanker — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:49:36 +0000

Kartik, did you say the majority of great players all time are British?

If so you should never EVER BE ALLOWED TO POST OR COMMENTATE AGAIN.

For all the dumb things I’ve seen on this site particularly from some of the writers recently that is by far the dumbest, especially for someone who is so well reasoned in his opinion otherwise and shows up the 2Gs every time he’s on that show…………………….good job yesterday by the way. You won the argument with Brown even if you have cost all the credibility you’ve earned with this dumb statement.

By: Simon Burke

Simon Burke — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:17:18 +0000

Serie A is garbage! (As he offends the Italian contingent) – let me qualify that with in the 90’s I would have had it down as the finest league but its been surpassed – they are tactically strong – read defensive and good at clock management- read time wasting. However in terms of actual football they are not so good. They were lucky to win the 2006 World Cup, Australia really should have put them away… THey wont the CL last year with a team that shouldnt even have been allowed in and only played well in patches. This year the Italian teams have been really put in their place beaten 5 times by English opposition with no wins in reply. I cant see it changing till the Italians adapt the way they play as they do have the players.

By: Liverpool John

Liverpool John — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:02:24 +0000

Truthfully I discovered other leagues in the past few months and believe the Premier League top to bottom uis vastly over rated. Not only the points about techical ability and touch mentioned above but also from sheer competitiveness and excitement.

Serie A too is over hyped: Besides Reds matches in England I have now discovered the French and German leagues which are exicitng and DC United as well. United was ripped off the other night and should be playing the North American Champions League final next week.

By: Ivan

Ivan — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:05:14 +0000

I don’t understand how the comment is ridiculous…. In my opinion the squad of Barcelona is better than Man Uniteds, not yours MY opinion. At the moment they are relying heavily on one young kid Bojan getting goals (noone else is on form unlike man united) and as i said when Messi is fit they are simply a different team….

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:04:15 +0000

It doesn’t work like that, the last sentence of your comment is ridiculous. I’m sorry, you can’t be the best team in Europe and not come out to play half the time. You can’t be the best team in Europe and only perform on some nights.

You can still be the best team in Europe when the result just doesn’t go your way but the effort and heart is still there. Barcelona show up every once in a while; they’re too inconsistent to be considered a serious threat to United at this point, which you correctly pointed out.