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		<title>By: Stud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The premier league is more popular than nfl, america has more people that is all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  NFL is nothing worldwide, I wish people would quit attacking football.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  Attacking football is americas pastime, I have lived there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The premier league is more popular than nfl, america has more people that is all.</p>
<p>  NFL is nothing worldwide, I wish people would quit attacking football.</p>
<p>  Attacking football is americas pastime, I have lived there.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis A</title>
		<link>http://www.epltalk.com/premier-league-wants-to-be-the-nfl/3002#comment-32690</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark M. : Teams can come up in the EPL.  Even Arsene Wenger is able to concede that Aston Villa possibly need to be considered part of the &#039;Big 5&#039;.  So instead of allowing piss poor teams the opportunity to become the &#039;Champions of the World&#039; as so frequently happens in American sports, the EPL (and specifically promotion/relegation and the cheap investment that comes from those) allows teams to build quality sides over time until they are able to establish dominance -- to wit: Aston Villa.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, then you could have something ridiculous like the New York Red Bulls winning the MLS Cup.  The Red Bulls lost 11 games and only won 10 last season.  And somehow they came to be the winners of the whole season.  That should not be allowed to happen.  I know that has a lot to do with the playoffs in MLS, but it also has a lot to do with crappy teams being guaranteed staying power.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Listen, if they want to destroy the EPL then they will switch to a central entity or allow the Euro Super League.  As an American, it would be hell to have to watch MLS to get decent soccer because the EPL switched to central entity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark M. : Teams can come up in the EPL.  Even Arsene Wenger is able to concede that Aston Villa possibly need to be considered part of the &#39;Big 5&#39;.  So instead of allowing piss poor teams the opportunity to become the &#39;Champions of the World&#39; as so frequently happens in American sports, the EPL (and specifically promotion/relegation and the cheap investment that comes from those) allows teams to build quality sides over time until they are able to establish dominance &#8212; to wit: Aston Villa.</p>
<p>Also, then you could have something ridiculous like the New York Red Bulls winning the MLS Cup.  The Red Bulls lost 11 games and only won 10 last season.  And somehow they came to be the winners of the whole season.  That should not be allowed to happen.  I know that has a lot to do with the playoffs in MLS, but it also has a lot to do with crappy teams being guaranteed staying power.</p>
<p>Listen, if they want to destroy the EPL then they will switch to a central entity or allow the Euro Super League.  As an American, it would be hell to have to watch MLS to get decent soccer because the EPL switched to central entity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the past 13 seasons, there have been 3 different winners of the Premier League (8x man utd, 2x Chelsea, 3x Arsenal) and 10 different Super Bowl winners (Baltimore, Dallas, 2x Denver, Green Bay, Indianapolis, 3x New England, NY Giants, Pittsburgh, St.Louis, Tampa Bay).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A closed model allows more sharing and thus closer competition, and also allows teams that have a rough few years to rebuild. The promotion/relegation system leads to an elite few teams that grow in relative power every year and shuts out any other side from every having a hope of winning, and also heavily punishes sides that have a bad year or so (e.g. Leeds). Last year, Miami was the worst team in the league. This season they are in the playoffs. That is the kind of turn around the closed league can give you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s no right or wrong answer. It&#039;s just whichever league works for you. As an added bonus to the closed system though, because of the variability season on season, you don&#039;t get the glory-hunter fans because you never know who&#039;s going to be at the top next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past 13 seasons, there have been 3 different winners of the Premier League (8x man utd, 2x Chelsea, 3x Arsenal) and 10 different Super Bowl winners (Baltimore, Dallas, 2x Denver, Green Bay, Indianapolis, 3x New England, NY Giants, Pittsburgh, St.Louis, Tampa Bay).</p>
<p>A closed model allows more sharing and thus closer competition, and also allows teams that have a rough few years to rebuild. The promotion/relegation system leads to an elite few teams that grow in relative power every year and shuts out any other side from every having a hope of winning, and also heavily punishes sides that have a bad year or so (e.g. Leeds). Last year, Miami was the worst team in the league. This season they are in the playoffs. That is the kind of turn around the closed league can give you.</p>
<p>There&#39;s no right or wrong answer. It&#39;s just whichever league works for you. As an added bonus to the closed system though, because of the variability season on season, you don&#39;t get the glory-hunter fans because you never know who&#39;s going to be at the top next season.</p>
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		<title>By: JLay</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never happen. Ever. A few reasons I can think of? 

1) The big four would never be open to revenue sharing,  no  matter the circumstance. 

2) A salary cap would establish a level playing field for all teams - because ALL of the quality talent will go elsewhere. Every game will look like Bolton vs. Reading.

3) Redistributing talent would dilute the three or four strong teams that the PL has to offer in the CL. Therefore, the four English teams go out in qualifying and group play - the league can kiss that CL payday goodbye.  

4) The fans wouldn&#039;t stand for it - relegation and promotion are part of the fabric of British football.

5) The media and networks wouldn&#039;t stand for it - if relegation is gone, only a handfull of games each week will make a difference. That means lower ratings, then lower ad revenues, eventually impacting the league when it&#039;s time to sign a new deal.

I think this is a situation where a few execs went out, got drunk, and came up with a stupid, half-baked plan to make more money. It should disappear when they sober up.

As for adding relegation to the major American sports leagues, I love the idea but it would likewise never happen. Remember, these franchises are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and in some cases billions. Teams are tied into long-term leases or loans on huge stadiums. What incentive does an owner have to risk assets of that magnatude? None...

Anyway, it&#039;s an interesting thought but none of this will ever, ever happen. Better chance of a SuperLeague coming about, although I doubt that will come to pass either. 

A Super League would destroy the financial and competitive foundations of every league on the continent. All of a sudden, there will be no big name transfers because every team is wary of helping their competition - and every other league will become a glorified feeder organization. 

Anyway, that&#039;s my take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never happen. Ever. A few reasons I can think of? </p>
<p>1) The big four would never be open to revenue sharing,  no  matter the circumstance. </p>
<p>2) A salary cap would establish a level playing field for all teams &#8211; because ALL of the quality talent will go elsewhere. Every game will look like Bolton vs. Reading.</p>
<p>3) Redistributing talent would dilute the three or four strong teams that the PL has to offer in the CL. Therefore, the four English teams go out in qualifying and group play &#8211; the league can kiss that CL payday goodbye.  </p>
<p>4) The fans wouldn&#8217;t stand for it &#8211; relegation and promotion are part of the fabric of British football.</p>
<p>5) The media and networks wouldn&#8217;t stand for it &#8211; if relegation is gone, only a handfull of games each week will make a difference. That means lower ratings, then lower ad revenues, eventually impacting the league when it&#8217;s time to sign a new deal.</p>
<p>I think this is a situation where a few execs went out, got drunk, and came up with a stupid, half-baked plan to make more money. It should disappear when they sober up.</p>
<p>As for adding relegation to the major American sports leagues, I love the idea but it would likewise never happen. Remember, these franchises are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and in some cases billions. Teams are tied into long-term leases or loans on huge stadiums. What incentive does an owner have to risk assets of that magnatude? None&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s an interesting thought but none of this will ever, ever happen. Better chance of a SuperLeague coming about, although I doubt that will come to pass either. </p>
<p>A Super League would destroy the financial and competitive foundations of every league on the continent. All of a sudden, there will be no big name transfers because every team is wary of helping their competition &#8211; and every other league will become a glorified feeder organization. </p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s my take.</p>
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		<title>By: Kartik Krishnaiyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kartik Krishnaiyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Eric, Mexico uses the same system. 

Since mexico and argentina play two seasons a year, an Apertura and Clausura season, they promote and relegate at the end of the Clausura season. The team with the worst aggregate point total over the previous four seasons (two years) is relegated. As far as promotion from the Primera A to the FMF first division I am not sure how it works specifically but one team goes up a year and one team goes down per the criteria I just mentioned. Relegation/Promotion takes place every year but the average is for a two year/four season total.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Eric, Mexico uses the same system. </p>
<p>Since mexico and argentina play two seasons a year, an Apertura and Clausura season, they promote and relegate at the end of the Clausura season. The team with the worst aggregate point total over the previous four seasons (two years) is relegated. As far as promotion from the Primera A to the FMF first division I am not sure how it works specifically but one team goes up a year and one team goes down per the criteria I just mentioned. Relegation/Promotion takes place every year but the average is for a two year/four season total.</p>
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