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  1. ferocho
    ferocho
    June 24, 2009 at 9:11 am | | Reply


    On a game that moves millions, leaving an open door to human-error is a recipe for disaster.
    People criticize the use of video but I have never seen it implemented, have you? How can we decide whether it’s obtrusive or not if we don’t even have a basis for analysis? They could have tested a system on a this Confa Cup, which nobody really cares about. See how it works. I am all for bringing technology to promote fairness, let’s give it a try and then decide. And while we are at it, how about some electronic way to identify offsides?

  2. Pedro
    Pedro
    June 24, 2009 at 9:18 am | | Reply


    Video ref needs to be introduced for 2 things. Decisions in the penalty box and to confirm a ball crosses the goal line. But there needs to be one caveat.

    The referee should be the only one who can call upon the video ref. It should be considered a tool in his arsenal to use. ie. he’s not 100 percent sure he can make the right decision. He doesn’t have to use it. It’s up to him.

    Violent conduct and cheating should be dealt with on video panels with heavy punishments. So you take a dive to win a penalty the player gets an instant red card, 3 game ban AND the team is docked 3 points. You’ll soon cut that behaviour out. I’m talking to you Drogba, Gerrard et al.

  3. Carl
    Carl
    June 24, 2009 at 9:23 am | | Reply


    You’re spot on with post-match review. There are a number of particularly nefarious elements about the game that this could correct.

    As for the live review, it should be kept out. The best thing it could be used for is the determination of whether or not the ball crossed the line for a goal, and I believe FIFA is already working on something along those lines involving hockey-style behind the net officials.

  4. RaiderRich
    RaiderRich
    June 24, 2009 at 9:58 am | | Reply


    There is already instant replay, the question is whether or not the sport will implement it. Soccer won’t do it.

    First you need to solve the problem of synching the stadium clock to the ref’s watch so that when he stops it, so does the time on the scoreboard. That would make replay easier and eliminate arbitrary determinations of injury time you would have to have to compensate.

    Since that’s not going to happen, don’t expect replay to happen.

  5. Tom Cope
    Tom Cope
    June 24, 2009 at 10:28 am | | Reply


    I’d be cautious about using video replay. I like American football well enough, but one of the reasons it is almost unwatchable is how slow the game moves, and video replay is one of the reasons. Players barely celebrate a touchdown or big play, instead they all pause for video review. Exciting plays are debated endlessly, the game stops for a long time, and then finally gets going again. The excitement in the stadium is killed. We should remember it is just sports, except the good and bad calls, and move on.

  6. Phil McThomas
    Phil McThomas
    June 24, 2009 at 11:41 am | | Reply


    I highly doubt that the Brazil call was based on video evidence, because it all happened too quickly. From the web video I saw, by the time the replay had been shown once on tv, the ref had already changed the call. How could the play have been reviewed and called-in to the ref so quickly?

    The simplest explanations are often the most likely. Webb says the linesman saw incident more clearly and corrected the ref. I can buy that.

    I’m very optimistic that putting a ref behind each goal is going to provide more incidents like this – more like the team-based calls that the NFL refs make on a routine basis, with great accuracy.

  7. FredZ
    FredZ
    June 24, 2009 at 12:25 pm | | Reply


    Replays actually account for a very little slice of the average nfl game and a live review by the fourth official would take even less time. In a regulation NFL game without overtime replays can at most take up 12 minutes but I’ve never seen that happen since it would be the maximum use of replays by the coaches and require that the call on the field be reversed which gives the coach that third 2 minute replay. Add in the few reviews that occur in during the final two minutes of each half and on average you lose around 10 minutes of a 4 hour game to replays. In soccer (sorry but want to avoid the football confusion), it would take much less time, probably no more than 5 minutes at most which is about as long as you can lose for a bad injury, a keeper injury, or a big ruckus after a red card/penalty.

    It makes no sense for people at home to know within seconds that a major error has been made but the ref and players kept in the dark simply because Fifa and UEFA are antiprogress. I would make a 30 second video review mandatory for all red card and penalty decisions. Those two situations usually take minutes of stopped time anyway and have such a large effect on the outcome of the match that errors should be minimized. I’d also give the ref the power to call for a 30 second review on questions of whether the ball crossed the line.

  8. coachie ballgames
    June 24, 2009 at 9:35 pm | | Reply


    While mindful of the time-wasting ramifications, I am all for video-review. I would favor a real-time system where there is an extra ref in a booth somewhere monitoring the game who can speak with the ref on the field via a headset to reverse a call or provide information, as I discussed here:

    http://sheahey.blogspot.com/2009/05/its-still-fng-disgrace.html

    But a move as drastic as video replay may not be needed if the addition of a ref behind each goal works.

    Either way, change should be afoot as the game only gets faster.

  9. anton
    anton
    June 24, 2009 at 11:40 pm | | Reply


    i think review should be limited to game deciding decisions like red cards and penalty calls. but the extra ref should solve the penalty calls at least.

  10. Thomas
    Thomas
    June 25, 2009 at 8:18 pm | | Reply


    My two cents:

    Keep video replay out of football. I don’t like it in American Football either. Just see the “tuck rule” and you will see what I mean.

    If video replay was the answer, then we wouldn’t have pundits arguing penalty awards on Monday mornings. There’s still loads of judgement calls.

  11. Jess
    Jess
    June 19, 2010 at 11:20 am | | Reply


    Bring in the video referee. Why can’t there be video confirmation of red/yellow cards, off sides etc. Why can’t they have something similar to tennis where each team can contest something major like a red card x amount of times in a game? So the game may take a few more minutes to finish, so what? Are you infavour of a quickie game or a fair one? I believe anything that will stop the “acting drama kings throwing themselves on the ground hoping for a penalty kick” stop their crap has got to be a good thing. I am currently watching the Ghana – Australia game and a video referee would have defintely been a good thing, because kewell was given a tough red car and Ghana got a yellow for a CLEAR red card offence. Seriously guys, fight for a fair game not a quick one.

  12. Driessen
    Driessen
    June 20, 2010 at 5:06 pm | | Reply


    Did you see Brazil V Cote’D'Ivoire world cup 2010? So much stoppage already due to players milking free-kicks which ended with Kaka being undeservedly sent off with a one-match suspension.

    How about Kewell sent off for intentional red card with penalty goal that leveled match?

    Are you trying to tell me that NFL would be a fast game without video referee? That is absurd.

    Football neeeds a video ref. badly. There is so many players milking fouls because they no how vulnerable refs are to poor decisions. Video ref. would eliminate this problem overnight and the game would become much more honest.

    Write another review Ethan and address these arguments. Unfortunately, it is not a case of Mr Blatter making a rare good decision but yourself making a rare bad one.

  13. soso
    soso
    June 20, 2010 at 5:47 pm | | Reply


    Football neeeds a video ref

  14. JustMe
    JustMe
    June 21, 2010 at 12:02 am | | Reply


    FIFA fails to comprehend that with the Internet, the AWFUL performance of Koman Coulibaly, the french referee at todays game between Brazil and Ivory Coast among other, will be scrutinized and their AWFUL performance exposed. Many will justly mock the World Championship as a fake performance similar to US Wrestling matches. And this will discredit the sport and FIFA itself. They need to do something now or risk becoming irrelevant in the long run.

  15. NPSF3000
    NPSF3000
    June 22, 2010 at 12:49 am | | Reply


    FIFA needs to take responsibility for what is happening on the field, and stop blaming human fallibility for making stupid mistakes. Just watching the world cup, the amount of stupid red cards given, and yellows given where there should be a red is ridiculous. There is no consistency in the rulings.

    While I am more interested in a after match review, I don’t think one should rule out Video-ref entirely. While I have heard that US football uses it badly – both International Cricket and Australian Rugby league use it efficiently and effectively.

    Currently players feel that they have to exaggerate to get refs attention, and the amount of faking makes it for poor viewing. Today a saw a Swiss player simply hit the deck to get another guy in trouble for nothing!

    For serious offenses, like in-the-box fouls, and yellow and red cards a video ref would not only help prevent diving – it would help stop those being punished unfairly due to reffering error.

  16. Dan
    Dan
    June 24, 2010 at 3:12 pm | | Reply


    Each team should get 2 challenges per game. if they lose a challenge, they don’t get anymore challenges for the rest of the game (if they lose the 1st challenge). If they get the first challenge, they can challenge 1 more time. It can only be used in a scoring situation where the ball ends up in the net but is disallowed due to potentially bad call or allowed due to potentially bad noncall. The reason behind losing challenges, only allowing 2 challenges, and only in a scoring situation is to keep the flow of the game as close to what it is currently. Stopping play constantly for challenges takes away from that flow (especially if one team has gained an upper hand in the match and are putting on good pressure).

    I haven’t decided if certain components of the game are not reviewable or cannot overturn the call (for example a person who is fouled but was 20 yards away from the play and had no bearing on the actual events of the goal).

    Also, the reviews should come from a “war room” similiar to the NHL where you have “neutral” judges making the decision and calling the decision down to the field.

  17. Sebastian
    Sebastian
    June 27, 2010 at 11:01 am | | Reply


    Allowing human error is an idiocy. Video replay does not comprimise the integrity of the game at all, in fact it makes it much more so. Today England scored an obvious goal against Germany and it was not counted, earlier the US got a ton of bad calls. If FIFA prez just woke up and stop being so dumb, a more accurate soccer game could be made. I think it could use systems like that of tennis with limited amount of challenges only lost if the challenger was wrong, you could get all the refs to review the video and vote, or even just the main one, still leaving the human element. FIFA makes me angry

  18. jaydayb
    jaydayb
    June 27, 2010 at 10:33 pm | | Reply


    they should change the system of refereeing, e.g., the same people who show us by video as the game is going on, that referee made a mistake, there should be e.g, 5 referees around those people and when they are sure a mistake has been made by the referee on the field, by alarm and etc stop the game and via communications tell the referee what the right decision is, but if referee was right, then game as usual will keep going on..only intervene when he makes a mistake and that is not so often

  19. Rami
    Rami
    June 28, 2010 at 1:21 am | | Reply


    Jaydayb, you are 100% right, i was just about to write the same thing. u only need 1 ref up top looking at a big screen tv with the ability to look at the play from different angles. It takes 5 seconds to see if the refs down at the field got the call right or wrong. It doesn’t have to be for everything. Disregarding fouls unless one caused a penalty. An offsides that caused a goal. An offensive player using his hand to score and refs missing it. And if a ball goes in and comes back out and refs dont count the goal. the game does not have to stop every minute to review everything that’s not important, just goals… having 1 ref up top to back u up on an important decision is not so bad, and it only takes 5 seconds for him to see what the call should be. it should be like this in every sport, american football as well, how they do it now is completely wrong and time wasting.

  20. ariel_ro
    June 28, 2010 at 5:22 am | | Reply


    Video referee would be a great adition. Yesterday, two refs did outrageous mistakes by not validating a goal for England and validating an off-side goal for Argentina.
    Bottom-line is that football should learn from tennis, which did the leap of letting technology into sport. And all for the best as far as everyone sees.

  21. Uffe
    Uffe
    June 28, 2010 at 9:25 am | | Reply


    Video is simple, fair, and neutral. Have nothing to hide, have nothing to fear. AND, like in tennis, a side (team) can have the right to call for video review x times during a match, say, like you can substitute x players during a match. Simple and easy and fair. C’mon, we’re in the 21st century now… hellooo?

  22. Noush
    July 10, 2010 at 10:00 pm | | Reply


    It is only fair that the most popular game on earth bring some fairness and dignity to the game. I am so sick and tired of undeserving goals leading to the wrong team winning and wrong offside calls and fouls that go unnoticed. You don’t have to stop the game to do the review, the fourth umpire can do the review and message the main ref the wrong calls. It only takes 20 seconds to do a video review. Don’t you think play slows down when players are arguing with the ref? and also, one starts to wonder what is the main objective of the game? KEEP THE FLOW INTACT OR LET THE DESERVING TEAM WIN?

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  23. Erist
    Erist
    July 12, 2010 at 11:44 am | | Reply


    As mentioned, the diving and flopping and rolling around already interrupts the flow of the game quite a bit

    Live video for goal replays would be useful

    Post-match video review to overturn [or award] bookings, especially for diving, would help tremendously as well. Right now there is little incentive not to dive — it is very hard in the field of play to determine how hard contact was, and a ref risks looking insensitive for booking an injured player for diving. Having post match review and strict penalties would put incentives not to dive into the equation.

    The human-fallibility-is-part-of-the-game purists may have had something to stand on when most matches were watched live, but now that most of us can see slow-motion reverse camera angles one hundred times per game, it just makes egregious bad calls leave a bad taste in everyone’s mouth.

    There is still plenty of latitude for refs in determining the flow of the game — what to caution for, etc etc etc — those will always be judgement calls. Things like whether a ball crossed the line or whether a player was in an offside position are generally easily cleared up in one or two viewings of slow motion.

  24. kp
    kp
    August 18, 2010 at 8:26 pm | | Reply


    well i think video refree should be ther because the refeess are not able to view each and every thing going on around them and they should bring video refees into play

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