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  1. SR, Manchester
    SR, Manchester
    March 30, 2009 at 5:00 pm | | Reply


    Wonderfully naive! Relax though, it’s not your fault, you see the Yong Player award MUST be won by a player from one of the “big four”, it’s the rules!. A player from City getting it……not over “their” lives!

  2. Paul Bestall
    Paul Bestall
    March 30, 2009 at 5:06 pm | | Reply


    haha, Yes, I take your point there, SR. Jenas was the last winner (in 2002-03) who didn’t play for one of the big four, though arguably at the time, Newcastle had become part of the top four under Bobby Robson. Le Tissier was probably the last player who wasn’t at a successful club at time.

  3. Bishopville Red
    Bishopville Red
    March 30, 2009 at 5:32 pm | | Reply


    Scott Parker doesn’t count? Since the turn of the century, it’s a pretty even split of “big 4″ to non-big 4 winners. Newcastle has more winners than anyone but Manchester United. And the big 4 winners this century? Gerrard, Rooney (X2), Ronaldo, Fabergas. Fairly useful players.

  4. Paul Bestall
    Paul Bestall
    March 30, 2009 at 5:57 pm | | Reply


    BR, Newcastle were one of the big 4 when Bellamy and Jenas won the award, which kind of counts them out. Same as Kewell at Leeds when he won.
    As for Parker, yes, he was at Charlton, moved to Chelsea, hardly played and still won the award.
    As SR points out, it’s usually players at the top clubs, United have 8 winners, Liverpool 5, Arsenal and Newcastle with 4 each. Would someone like Paul Walsh, Steve Moran or Tony Cottee win the award now? Doubtful in my opinion.

  5. Ankit Anand
    Ankit Anand
    March 31, 2009 at 1:16 am | | Reply


    No Chelsea player is being talked about foe the award, nor has one won it for a long time. They have been there and thereabouts for a decade now. Should do better with their youth policy.

  6. ed
    ed
    March 31, 2009 at 9:17 pm | | Reply


    Yes he deserves young player of the year award,i just hope that when ireland take on italy tomorrow he has a bit of sorrow in him as the entire country wishes he was playing yet he’s not over a stupid incident. real shame football can be sometimes

  7. Bishopville Red
    Bishopville Red
    April 1, 2009 at 1:30 am | | Reply


    PB – Seeing as you wish to inlcude a third division side and a relegation threatened side as big 4, All your comment proves is that the BIG 4 has been very fluid over the years. It would not appear not that you need to be “big 4 to get a look in, rather that the recipe to becoming and staying a Big 4 club (up until Chelsea bought in) is a good system that develops young talent. You’ve put the cart before the horse!

    Walsh or Cottee wouldn’t get it today? Why not? If Scott Parker can win it recently (his time at Chelsea did nothing to help his cause) , the voters are obviously open minded to look past the top 4 sides if someone out there merits a mention.

    Let’s flip your question: Who among the players from Manchester United or Liverpool (or Arsenal and Newcastle for that matter) has history proven to be a poor choice of YPOTY? All of the recipients from the 4 clubs mentioned have gone on to be full internationals and many were candidates, if not winners of the full POTY award. The three repeat winners come from Man Utd. (Giggs & Rooney) and Liverpool (Fowler) Based on caps, the least successful of the players to win 21 awards for the 4 clubs is Lee Sharpe. Lee Sharpe!

    There a lot of reasons why football fans might not like the big 4, but if they’re going to use this award as some form of evidence, then they’re showing the height of laziness in their argument. Instead of moping that you have to be “big 4″ to get recognized for YPOTY, maybe they should open their eyes and see what it takes for a club to become and stay a big 4 club.

    7 of Manchester United’s 8 YPOTY award recipients came from the era of United dominance- 1991 and up. Is that the kid riding the club’s coat tails, or more likely, the club improving because it has that quality of player in the side?

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