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		<title>Dempsey, Howard And USA Put Up A Great Fight In 3-2 Loss To Brazil</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Armstrong</dc:creator>
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Q: Why did he mention Dempsey and Howard in the title?
A: It&#8217;s a sneaky writer&#8217;s trick. He name-dropped Americans who play in the Premier League to justify writing about USA v Brazil for EPLTalk.com.
Q: Is that why he posted that hastily sketched drawing of Dempsey&#8217;s mug as well?

A: Yes indeed.
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<p><em>Q: Why did he mention Dempsey and Howard in the title?</em></p>
<p><em>A: It&#8217;s a sneaky writer&#8217;s trick. He name-dropped Americans who play in the Premier League to justify writing about USA v Brazil for EPLTalk.com.</em></p>
<p><em>Q: Is that why he posted that hastily sketched drawing of Dempsey&#8217;s mug as well?<br />
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<p><em>A: Yes indeed.</em></p>
<p>Is there such a thing as a great loss in football? As a Liverpool supporter, I am told I enjoyed two great <em>draws</em> this past season. 4-4 against Chelsea and 4-4 against Arsenal. I was too devastated by Liverpool being knocked out of the Champions League and sliding out of the title race to notice I enjoyed anything. Out of context, I can appreciate the matches&#8217; greatness. The bombardment of goals. The tension and drama. I get it. But in light of the repercussions of a cup exit and key points dropped, these matches leave a bitter, clinging residue. It still stings to think about them.</p>
<p>Yet, as an <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">American</span> <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">North American</span> <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">USAian</span> <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Statesman</span>, ahem&#8230; Yet, as a Yank, I can say I enjoyed the USA&#8217;s great loss to Brazil yesterday.</p>
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<p>The first half was a dream. Jonathan Spector&#8217;s service was brilliant but Dempsey&#8217;s shot looked awkward. It bounced optimistically toward goal. I was positive Julio César had it covered. When it bounced just past his fingertips, I couldn&#8217;t believe it. USA were one-nil up on Brazil. I still felt sure we&#8217;d lose 4-1. But I&#8217;d said before the match I&#8217;d feel better losing 4-1 than another 3-0. And now we&#8217;d scored first. Beautiful.</p>
<p>The US continued with convincing possession and driving play.  And while Brazil created some chances in the first half, Tim Howard continually read the attacks perfectly. He snatched, scooped and punched the danger away each time it knocked on his door.</p>
<p>Then there were two USA players running down the Brazilian defense with loads of space. Almost a mirror image of Brazil&#8217;s charge off the failed US corner kick in the previous match. Charlie Davies had the ball out wide and Landon Donovan made the perfect run. Davies found him with a sharp pass past two defenders and Donovan turned his man before launching the ball into the far corner. Was this the same team that bumbled and stuttered against Brazil just ten days ago? Had the USA and Brazil players swapped shirts <em>before</em> the match instead of after? Would Real Madrid be making a €50m bid on Donovan? I considered dumping a glass of cold water over myself just to make sure I was awake.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d told me before the match we were going to finish the half two nil up on Brazil, I would have hurled rotting vegetables at your head to teach you not to say such ridiculous things. But the whistle blew. And 2-0 was the score. I couldn&#8217;t relax though. If it had been 8-0 maybe I could have taken a deep breath and relaxed. Maybe. But I was still too elated for words.</p>
<p>A minute into the first half, and Luis Fabiano was there to guide me back down to earth with a stunner. His back to goal and defender Jay DeMerit, he spun toward the target, slinging the ball between DeMerit&#8217;s legs and past Tim Howard. DeMerit gave him too much room and the shot came off before Howard could process the ball&#8217;s movement. The keeper lunged but it was no use.</p>
<p>At this point, I thought the US could still prevail. Brazil had gotten one off, but if our boys kept their heads they could create another like the Dempsey or Donovan goal and we could win it 3-1.</p>
<p>But Fabiano&#8217;s goal had thrown our side off balance and Brazil would take advantage with blistering resolve.</p>
<p>Against Spain, the US were able to congest the box. There was plenty of room for Spain on each wing, but no one open in the box no matter how good the service. Against Brazil, this same space on the wing was an open invitation to an onslought. The Brazilians would just keep coming. Wave upon wave of attack. Another goal from Fabiano and one from Lúcio would smother my hopes. Kaká should have been credited with a goal as well, but Tim Howard got the ball out before the officials could see it had crossed the line.</p>
<p>Brazil&#8217;s goals stung my heart, but when the final whistle blew I wasn&#8217;t devastated. We&#8217;d had no business getting past the group stage. We&#8217;d had no business beating Spain. But there we were in the final against Brazil. We lost by a mere goal.</p>
<p>After the miserable group stage loss to Brazil which was plagued by horrible US passing and embarrassing concessions, all I wanted from yesterday was for the US to play well. They could lose to Brazil as long as it wasn&#8217;t a dismal display. The biggest problem the US had in the previous encounter was they let Brazil&#8217;s reputation overwhelm them. They played infinitely better against Spain, The Best Team in the World™. But Spain haven&#8217;t been The Best Team in the World™ long enough for the US to let it shake their psychology. They kept their heads and managed an upset.</p>
<p>Brazil have been Brazil for decades. It&#8217;s not just that they are great players, but their legend is a long-standing institution which looms large. The <em>idea </em>of Brazil put the US on the back foot even before the opening whistle of the group stage match. That the US were able to overcome this psychological hurdle yesterday and play out of their skin and go two nil up is massive. An important leap before South Africa 2010.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t expect us to win the final. But then I didn&#8217;t expect us to escape the group stage and I certainly didn&#8217;t expect us to oust Spain. So yesterday I was open to the boys flipping my reality on its head one last time. Which they did, if only in the first half.</p>
<p>Thanks for giving me that dream, boys. The Brazilian comeback may have been inevitable. But the great fight of the first half was pure joy and a big step for the future of team USA.</p>
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		<title>Another Reason To Hate NBC&#8217;s Olympic Soccer Coverage</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Gaffer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watching Brazil against Argentina in the semi-final of the Olympic games this morning, I felt like I was in a timewarp back to the late 1980&#8217;s. That&#8217;s because NBC, in their infinite stupidity, are breaking for TV commercials in the middle of the game.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img src="http://cdn.epltalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/beijing-olympic-20082.jpg" alt="beijing olympic 20082 Another Reason To Hate NBCs Olympic Soccer Coverage" align="right" vspace="15" hspace="15" title="Another Reason To Hate NBCs Olympic Soccer Coverage" />Watching Brazil against Argentina in the semi-final of the Olympic games this morning, I felt like I was in a timewarp back to the late 1980&#8217;s. That&#8217;s because NBC, in their infinite stupidity, are breaking for TV commercials in the middle of the game.</p>
<p>And just as it routinely happened in the late 1980&#8217;s (including the 1986 World Cup when televised by U.S. TV), the broadcast of the game came back to show that a goal had been scored during a commercial.</p>
<p>Wake up NBC. It&#8217;s 2008. Let&#8217;s come up with a better solution for televising soccer matches that doesn&#8217;t include breaking for commercials.</p>
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		<title>Rafael and Fabio Da Silva: Players To Watch</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Gaffer</dc:creator>
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This week, two Manchester United players made their debut for the club in quiet circumstances during a 2-0 friendly win against League One side Peterborough United. The match was noteworthy because of the debut for two of United&#8217;s rising stars, Rafael and Fabio Da Silva.
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<p>This week, two Manchester United players made their debut for the club in quiet circumstances during a 2-0 friendly win against League One side Peterborough United. The match was noteworthy because of the debut for two of United&#8217;s rising stars, Rafael and Fabio Da Silva.</p>
<p>The two 18-year old Brazilian twins agreed to join Alex Ferguson&#8217;s side in February 2007 but due to FIFA regulations, they had to wait until they turned eighteen before they could sign professional contracts. But now that they&#8217;re authorized to play, keep an eye out for the twins during this upcoming season.</p>
<p>Right back Rafael and left back Fabio joined Man United from Fluminense in Brazil. The twins also played in the FIFA U-17 World Cup in Korea.</p>
<p>After the Peterborough friendly, Ferguson said this about the two Brazilian defenders:</p>
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<blockquote><p><em>“The young players were fantastic and young Rafael the right-back was a sensation for me.</em></p>
<p><em>I thought it was a real eye opener for us. He hadn’t played for a year but he’s played a full 90 minutes today. His brother Fabio has played 45 minutes and he’s also done well so we’re really pleased by their contribution.</em></p>
<p><em>You know what football’s like. Sometimes it turns up some star, some little nugget maybe. On the evidence of tonight I think we have got a good player here.”</em></p></blockquote>
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<p>In the recent history of English football, there have been some notable brothers who have played together on the same team. Best known are Gary and Phil Neville. While brothers are not uncommon, what is rare is to see two twins playing together on the same side. Examples from Holland include Ronald and Frank de Boer, and Rene and Willy Van der Kerkhof. In England, the only twins I can remember are Dean and David Holdsworth who played for Watford in the late eighties.</p>
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		<title>Liverpool Does the Right Thing: German Clubs Do Not</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kartik Krishnaiyer</dc:creator>
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On the European Continent and on the British Isles the view of the Olympic football Tournament is completely different than in the rest of the world. In Europe the tournament is seen as more of a nuisance than anything, while among those in the Western Hemisphere and in Africa it is seen as big deal.
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<p>On the European Continent and on the British Isles the view of the Olympic football Tournament is completely different than in the rest of the world. In Europe the tournament is seen as more of a nuisance than anything, while among those in the Western Hemisphere and in Africa it is seen as big deal.</p>
<p>Nigeria and Cameroon are both recent champions of the event, and after both nations achieved their Gold Medals, mass celebrations consumed the nation. Mexico fired its national coach, the biggest hero in Mexican football history Hugo Sanchez because he failed to qualify the team for the Olympics, despite a month earlier, achieving the nation&#8217;s first result on American soil against the arch rival United States in nine years. Brazil&#8217;s Dunga has survived a tumultuous World Cup qualifying campaign thus far, because he is seen as the man to bring home an Olympic Gold Medal, and Brazil did not want to change coaches so soon before the Olympics.</p>
<p>The United States puts more emphasis on Olympic Football than any tournament outside of the World Cup, and because for years the Olympics  themselves were used as a propaganda tool by the USA, I&#8217;ve heard debate within American soccer circles as to whether or not winning the Olympic Gold Medal would actually do more for the game domestically than winning the World Cup. While I do not subscribe to this view in the least bit, it simply demonstrates how important the Olympic tournament is considered to many people. In fact, one of the best forwards then United States has ever produced, Brian McBride has come out of international retirement just for this event, because of its importance to US Soccer. Tim Vickery, who understands Latin Football better than just about any European writer, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/7516842.stm">explains why this event is so important to so many</a> in an outstanding piece.</p>
<p>But European clubs for the most part are more annoyed and bothered by this event than they are interested in it. Liverpool is losing more than just about any club on the planet. Ryan Babel will be featuring for Holland, Javier Mascherano for Argentina, and Lucas for Brazil. This puts the Reds behind the eight ball in the first few weeks of the Premier League season. Rafa Benetiz isn&#8217;t happy about it, but unlike some of the clubs in Germany, Liverpool understands that FIFA&#8217;s declaration that all selected U-23 players must be released is to be honored. But even more admirable is that Liverpool has released Mascherano, who is an overage player and whose release Liverpool legally could have prevented.</p>
<p>Chelsea has released Solomon Kalou.  Blackburn has released Ryan Nelson (an overage player) and Manchester United has allowed Anderson to join Brazil. However two German clubs are refusing to release their Brazilian players: Werder Bremen with Diego, perhaps the best player in the Bundesliga last season, and Schalke with Rafinha. Both players left their clubs this week without permission to join Brazil&#8217;s training. This stands in contrast not only to the example set by the three aforementioned English clubs, but by AC Milan who just signed Ronaldinho and have made him the center of a major worldwide marketing campaign. Despite this,  Milan has allowed Ronaldinho to join Brazil&#8217;s squad, perhaps because Italian clubs are more used to this situation than other European clubs: Italy has competed in more Olympic Football tournaments than any other nation. (Believe it or not, the United States has qualified for the second most Olympic Football tournaments, and would tied with Italy for the most appearances had the US not barely missed qualification for the 2004 tournament).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s even more disturbing are the lengths the two German clubs are going to in order to try and stop players from exercising their free will and representing their country. The Court of Arbitration for Sport will hear a case being brought before it by the clubs and backed by the European Club Association to block U-23 players from joining their national teams in the Olympics. Werder Bremen has also refused to allow Dusko Tosic of Serbia to join his team and has reportedly confiscated his passport.</p>
<p>Olympic football is very important to many across the globe. As European clubs become more and more global in both their squad makeup and in their marketing they must learn to bend on these sorts of issues. Liverpool to their credit has reluctantly complied as they continue to try and build their global brand. The German clubs, already in a league whose international stature is waning have made a fatal mistake in the court of international football public opinion with their  unreasonable stand. Though many in Europe whose focus is the club game and European tournaments may applaud Schalke and Bremen for their stands, the Bundesliga is no doubt soon to take a major beating in perception and respect level in Latin America.</p>
<p>While Olympic Football takes place outside the regular FIFA blackout windows, clubs in Europe must understand the importance of this event and also assume the risk for signing high profile internationals. Liverpool, as a more popular and successful club from an international standpoint clearly understands this better than Werder Breman and Schalke 04. Perhaps this helps to explain why the Premier League is head and shoulders above the Bundesliga these days when it comes to international recognition and popularity.</p>
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