16 Responses

  1. ray
    ray
    November 27, 2009 at 12:56 pm | | Reply


    jes,another piece about liverpool.enough already.

    1. The Gaffer
      November 27, 2009 at 1:16 pm | | Reply


      Ray, if you could name one Premier League club this season that has suffered so much turmoil and that is deserving of the most amount of coverage, it’s Liverpool.

      However, in the past week, we’ve also written about Everton, Millwall, Hull City, Bolton, Tottenham, Manchester United, Portsmouth, West Ham United, Wolves, Sunderland and several others.

      If there was nothing going on at Liverpool and we were still writing lots of stories about the Reds, then that would be another story.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  2. inbox soccer
    November 27, 2009 at 1:12 pm | | Reply


    liverpool just not luck at champion league this years

    1. Dave Jones
      Dave Jones
      November 27, 2009 at 2:44 pm | | Reply


      Like scoring only 4 goals in the group one less than Debrecan! Let’s all put that down to bad luck? Or maybe its bad planning to rely on only one striker?

      1. Laurence
        Laurence
        November 28, 2009 at 7:41 am | | Reply


        So one minute they are a two man team and the next they are a one man team and then when Alonso leaves they become a 2 man team again and then when they get Robbie Keane who doesn’t take his chances then they have made a mistake for selling him and then N’gog scores and people no one mentions it. Such a 2 dimensional analysis it makes it seem straight-forward when it isn’t, these are fundamentals but they aren’t the only problems.

        1. Jorge Curioso
          Jorge Curioso
          November 29, 2009 at 12:58 am | | Reply


          Ok, here’s a straight-forward two-dimensional analysis: Liverpool are sh*te, and Benitez is a charlatan.

  3. brn442
    brn442
    November 27, 2009 at 2:13 pm | | Reply


    I’ve always thought that the parachuting of 3rd place CL clubs into the UEFA/EUROPA league is self-serving and one sided (the least Uefa could’ve done is give the Europa Champions a spot in next season’s CL.)

    I would’ve been embarrassed as an LFC fan if this team on their current form came anywhere near the European Cup. They got what they deserved.

    Apart from the immediate financial losses of not making the knock out stages of the CL, Liverpool playing in the Europa League can be a positive thing. Like you said, Liverpool have to actually earn their european revenue and potentially can be a decent sum, it can be good for the Cup as for the first time in years, there is a “Top Four” English club involved.

    It should give Benitez a chance to play the likes of Ngog and others for experience and the likes of Babel so they’ll stop sulking, plus – as the games are usually on Thursday, unless they reach far in the cup, it would be hard to justify playing the likes of Gerrard and Torres for 90 mins with potentially just two days rest for weekend Premier League matches.

  4. Dave Jones
    Dave Jones
    November 27, 2009 at 2:42 pm | | Reply


    No, just the beginning of the end…we will not win it, I can name half a dozen teams who are better than us. We will also not qualify for Champs League next year, so we had better get used to the Europa League under Rafa. The players are not good enough and the team is broken. 5 more years under Rafa…can’t wait.

    1. Laurence
      Laurence
      November 28, 2009 at 7:43 am | | Reply


      I’m not sure if you’re a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Are you really a Liverpool fan because you don’t seem to share the mentality or passion for the side.

  5. Jon
    Jon
    November 27, 2009 at 3:26 pm | | Reply


    Dave, very insightful breakdown of the financial consequences to Liverpool of their failure to reach the elimination rounds of the Champions League. I have heard a lot of people and read a lot of sites declaring that it would be a disaster, without support from the numbers. Your analysis and conclusions support what I suspected, which is that while Champions League knockout this year is not a real serious blow to the Liverpool pocketbook, failure to qualify by missing out on the Top 4 spots next year would be. Nicely done.

    1. Dave
      November 27, 2009 at 8:08 pm | | Reply


      Thanks, Jon.

  6. Chris from Texas
    Chris from Texas
    November 27, 2009 at 8:07 pm | | Reply


    It is great to have numbers show the truth, as opposed to people speculating about things they don’t fully understand. While I am not a fan of Liverpool getting knocked out of the Champions League, it may be for the best.

    I think they will take fourth, if not third. Arsenal may start having problems with Van Persie and other out. The Hotspurs are full of talent, but seem to get depressed far too easily when things don’t go their way. Aston Villa doesn’t have the experience to mount a challenge and Manchester City, for all their money, can’t seem to step up to the challenge. Heck, an injury ravaged Liverpool still had the upper hand against them!

    1. Dave
      November 27, 2009 at 8:11 pm | | Reply


      Indeed. If Aston Villa beats Tottenham on Saturday and Liverpool wins on Sunday, the Reds are only 2 points off the pace for 4th place. There are far too many games left to start thinking the gap here is insurmountable. But the press and the fans do live in the moment, don’t they?

      1. Laurence
        Laurence
        November 28, 2009 at 7:45 am | | Reply


        I don’t know many Liverpool fans living in the moment right now but I that sections of the press do because it sells copy.

        Solid evaluation though Dave.

        Interesting article.

  7. Jorge Curioso
    Jorge Curioso
    November 29, 2009 at 12:59 am | | Reply


    “Always look at the bright side of life…”

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