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	<title>Comments on: Twitter Is The Enemy of the Premier League</title>
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		<title>By: HRH Sven Olaf Prince of CyberBunker</title>
		<link>http://www.epltalk.com/twitter-is-the-enemy-of-the-premier-league/5719#comment-43822</link>
		<dc:creator>HRH Sven Olaf Prince of CyberBunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abolish copyrights, they are an obsolete undemocratic concept only maintained in the interest of a select few who refuse to fix their business model to todays standards. The world is better off without them, be it the RIAA, MPAA, sonymusic, universal, or the &quot;football leage&quot; is irrelevant. the latter can make enough money on ticket sales. problem solved.

If you can see it and store it in your brain you can also store it digitally and write about it, simple as that.

everyone who tries to tell you otherwise should be shot on sight, don&#039;t go to court, go to war, wave your fist and shout, one solution, revolution :P

ah and don&#039;t forget to elect pirateparty on your way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abolish copyrights, they are an obsolete undemocratic concept only maintained in the interest of a select few who refuse to fix their business model to todays standards. The world is better off without them, be it the RIAA, MPAA, sonymusic, universal, or the &#8220;football leage&#8221; is irrelevant. the latter can make enough money on ticket sales. problem solved.</p>
<p>If you can see it and store it in your brain you can also store it digitally and write about it, simple as that.</p>
<p>everyone who tries to tell you otherwise should be shot on sight, don&#8217;t go to court, go to war, wave your fist and shout, one solution, revolution <img src='http://www.epltalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>ah and don&#8217;t forget to elect pirateparty on your way out.</p>
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		<title>By: RF Interference</title>
		<link>http://www.epltalk.com/twitter-is-the-enemy-of-the-premier-league/5719#comment-40872</link>
		<dc:creator>RF Interference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a follow up, I&#039;d like to add these rulings have actually helped MLB position itself going forward, much as the Gaffer seems to hope the Premier League will. There isn&#039;t a sporting league on Earth better wired into the internet than MLB.

Their subsidiary, MLBAM (Major League Baseball Advanced Media), which handles all their online content, is a cash cow ($600M in revenue last year). What&#039;s more, it&#039;s the only revenue stream shared equally among the 30 clubs, so as the internet becomes more and more important it stands to reason (if revenue sharing remains unchanged) that MLB will become more and more egaliatarian as a league as revenue streams are redirected online.

Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlb.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MLB.com&lt;/a?&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Gameday&lt;/i&gt; feature. It&#039;s amazing. To compete with sites offering textual play-by-plays, MLBAM rolled out &lt;i&gt;Gameday&lt;/i&gt; which gives a javascript graphical representation of every pitch, live. It&#039;s available free at MLB.com for every game. &lt;i&gt;Gameday&lt;/i&gt; also has live graphics that show the location of hits and outs and graphics that show a pitchers average velocity and hot and cold grids for individual batters&#039; strike zones.

MLB.com also has their own free fantasy baseball service and hosts free blogs.

MLBAM has had to compete with other free services as a result of the court rulings and has improved its own content drastically to draw traffic back to the league&#039;s official website. MLB just launced its own cable channel and via MLB.com now offers free video highlights for every game on their site as well. Keep in mind that they&#039;ve got 30 teams each playing 162 games in 181 days, so there are free highlights up for 2,400+ games a season.

Being a baseball fan first and foremost, and a recent convert to the beautiful game, I have to say I&#039;ve been spoiled by MLB, and am often left scratching my head at the Premier League. Living outside the U.K. I&#039;m blocked from watching the online video highlights that get put up by English newspapers.

MLB.com&#039;s online packages are fantastic, too. $80 gets you live streaming online video for all 2,400+ games (except the team judged to be from your local market). $110 gets you that same package but in HD and with a choice of the home or away team&#039;s broadcast crew whenever available. $15 gets you the home and away radio broadcasts for every game with no market restrictions.

I can&#039;t even listen to the Beeb&#039;s coverage living in the States.

I think the Gaffer has some good points, especially as a foreign fan, about how hard the Premier League makes following their matches. Thankfully, since the Sirius and XM satellite radio merger, I now get EPL radio broadcasts that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a follow up, I&#8217;d like to add these rulings have actually helped MLB position itself going forward, much as the Gaffer seems to hope the Premier League will. There isn&#8217;t a sporting league on Earth better wired into the internet than MLB.</p>
<p>Their subsidiary, MLBAM (Major League Baseball Advanced Media), which handles all their online content, is a cash cow ($600M in revenue last year). What&#8217;s more, it&#8217;s the only revenue stream shared equally among the 30 clubs, so as the internet becomes more and more important it stands to reason (if revenue sharing remains unchanged) that MLB will become more and more egaliatarian as a league as revenue streams are redirected online.</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://www.mlb.com" rel="nofollow">MLB.com&lt;/a?&#8217;s <i>Gameday</i> feature. It&#8217;s amazing. To compete with sites offering textual play-by-plays, MLBAM rolled out <i>Gameday</i> which gives a javascript graphical representation of every pitch, live. It&#8217;s available free at MLB.com for every game. <i>Gameday</i> also has live graphics that show the location of hits and outs and graphics that show a pitchers average velocity and hot and cold grids for individual batters&#8217; strike zones.</p>
<p>MLB.com also has their own free fantasy baseball service and hosts free blogs.</p>
<p>MLBAM has had to compete with other free services as a result of the court rulings and has improved its own content drastically to draw traffic back to the league&#8217;s official website. MLB just launced its own cable channel and via MLB.com now offers free video highlights for every game on their site as well. Keep in mind that they&#8217;ve got 30 teams each playing 162 games in 181 days, so there are free highlights up for 2,400+ games a season.</p>
<p>Being a baseball fan first and foremost, and a recent convert to the beautiful game, I have to say I&#8217;ve been spoiled by MLB, and am often left scratching my head at the Premier League. Living outside the U.K. I&#8217;m blocked from watching the online video highlights that get put up by English newspapers.</p>
<p>MLB.com&#8217;s online packages are fantastic, too. $80 gets you live streaming online video for all 2,400+ games (except the team judged to be from your local market). $110 gets you that same package but in HD and with a choice of the home or away team&#8217;s broadcast crew whenever available. $15 gets you the home and away radio broadcasts for every game with no market restrictions.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even listen to the Beeb&#8217;s coverage living in the States.</p>
<p>I think the Gaffer has some good points, especially as a foreign fan, about how hard the Premier League makes following their matches. Thankfully, since the Sirius and XM satellite radio merger, I now get EPL radio broadcasts that way.</a></p>
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		<title>By: RF Interference</title>
		<link>http://www.epltalk.com/twitter-is-the-enemy-of-the-premier-league/5719#comment-40870</link>
		<dc:creator>RF Interference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(But I am not familiar with the rights of the press and public in the U.K.)

(ESPN, based in Connecticut, does live textual play-by-play for EPL matches on their Soccernet website. I wonder if they&#039;re paying licensing fees?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(But I am not familiar with the rights of the press and public in the U.K.)</p>
<p>(ESPN, based in Connecticut, does live textual play-by-play for EPL matches on their Soccernet website. I wonder if they&#8217;re paying licensing fees?)</p>
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		<title>By: RF Interference</title>
		<link>http://www.epltalk.com/twitter-is-the-enemy-of-the-premier-league/5719#comment-40869</link>
		<dc:creator>RF Interference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Live blogging and the like are totally legal and protected in the United States. My recommendation for any site looking to do so for the Premier League is to find someone in the States willing to take it up for them.

When pagers came out in the 1980s, companies started offering services that would send live score updates to your pager for the major American professional and college sports. The NBA sued these companies on the same grounds that the Premier League is sending cease and desist letters.

The courts in the U.S. ruled that scores, status updates, textual play-by-plays are all considered news and that reporting these events, even live, was protected by the First Amendment (freedom of speech/press).

This court decision was reinforced when MLB recently tried to sue several fantasy baseball services for using the names of players and statistics without paying licensing fees. Once again the courts ruled that these events were still news and still protected by the First Amendment. If Albert Pujols hits a homerun, telling others that Albert Pujols hit a homerun is well within the free public&#039;s rights.

It&#039;s still, obviously, illegal to retransmit or rebroadcast someone else&#039;s specific audio or video feed (Justin.tv, etc).

Without getting into a debate over intellectual property in general (namely that the only reason reproduction/duplication is considered theft is because the expectation for exclusivity has been created through government force and doesn&#039;t exist naturally, as compared to the real physical loss that occurs through material theft), I agree with the U.S. courts and not ThomD.

I fail to see how reporting on events that take place under the public eye is the exclusive right of the Premier League.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live blogging and the like are totally legal and protected in the United States. My recommendation for any site looking to do so for the Premier League is to find someone in the States willing to take it up for them.</p>
<p>When pagers came out in the 1980s, companies started offering services that would send live score updates to your pager for the major American professional and college sports. The NBA sued these companies on the same grounds that the Premier League is sending cease and desist letters.</p>
<p>The courts in the U.S. ruled that scores, status updates, textual play-by-plays are all considered news and that reporting these events, even live, was protected by the First Amendment (freedom of speech/press).</p>
<p>This court decision was reinforced when MLB recently tried to sue several fantasy baseball services for using the names of players and statistics without paying licensing fees. Once again the courts ruled that these events were still news and still protected by the First Amendment. If Albert Pujols hits a homerun, telling others that Albert Pujols hit a homerun is well within the free public&#8217;s rights.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still, obviously, illegal to retransmit or rebroadcast someone else&#8217;s specific audio or video feed (Justin.tv, etc).</p>
<p>Without getting into a debate over intellectual property in general (namely that the only reason reproduction/duplication is considered theft is because the expectation for exclusivity has been created through government force and doesn&#8217;t exist naturally, as compared to the real physical loss that occurs through material theft), I agree with the U.S. courts and not ThomD.</p>
<p>I fail to see how reporting on events that take place under the public eye is the exclusive right of the Premier League.</p>
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		<title>By: eplnfl</title>
		<link>http://www.epltalk.com/twitter-is-the-enemy-of-the-premier-league/5719#comment-40789</link>
		<dc:creator>eplnfl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good Chris. The Prem lives in the past as I said above on media rights. ThomD I have no problem with the selling of media rights and protecting them. The Prem is just using a stone age model and Chris&#039; point is well made about contacting website after website. If they offered a reasonably price online service they would haul in the cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good Chris. The Prem lives in the past as I said above on media rights. ThomD I have no problem with the selling of media rights and protecting them. The Prem is just using a stone age model and Chris&#8217; point is well made about contacting website after website. If they offered a reasonably price online service they would haul in the cash.</p>
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