15 Responses

  1. Tyson
    Tyson
    August 31, 2009 at 7:10 pm | | Reply


    Berbatov is an incredible player the problem is most people only understand goals.

    If Berbatov was to provide more assists this season than anybody else most people wouldn’t acknowledge it as an accomplishment but on the other hand anybody that scores a lot of goals is hailed as a legend right away.

    Creating opportunities in football is of PARAMOUNT importance. If you can get a player that has the right touch to create something from nothing you can create goal scoring opportunities out of the thin air.

    On the other hand a bone head that only knows how to kick the ball into the back of the net may get more goals but he creates less opportunities for goals.

    Football isn’t about individual accolades football is about team play and a player that can set up his team mates from awkward positions and create opportunities out of nothing is a player that is truly priceless.

    Honestly the fact that people even question Berbatov and what he is giving to the team really shows most people watching the sport don’t have a clue.

    Being able to create opportunities out of thin air and having that kind of skill with the ball is nothing short of remarkable. The man truly is capable of doing things few others are.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxJ9wdXXbwY

  2. Richard
    Richard
    August 31, 2009 at 7:50 pm | | Reply


    Second time, long time. Oh boy, is this a United slagging off site? Rooney diving, Berba mistake, Fergie out-witted?!? I’m not saying kiss United’s ass ala Nick Webster but show a little balance. Thanks for your time, I’ll hang up and listen.

    Cheers,
    Richard

    1. The Gaffer
      August 31, 2009 at 8:28 pm | | Reply


      Hi Richard, EPL Talk has no agenda, so you’ll see a combo of articles on this site — some praising Man United, others criticizing them, and so on and so forth for all Premier League teams. We’ve been called out by Liverpool fans for being too harsh on the team, and we’ve been criticized for having too many pro-Liverpool articles.

      Anyway, the bottom line is that you’ll read plenty of different opinions here. Some you may disagree with. Others you may nod your head in approval at.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

      1. Richard
        Richard
        August 31, 2009 at 9:10 pm | | Reply


        Understood. I know that it’s hard to please everyone. You’ve got me hooked though. You’re in my favourites bar.

        Cheers,
        Richard

  3. NewtonHeath
    NewtonHeath
    August 31, 2009 at 8:09 pm | | Reply


    Not saying berba didn’t create chances bc he did. But, a lot of that was due to united’s euphoria to be back in the match & the fact that arsenal were getting tired & chasing as it became an up and down game. Fergie still needs time to sort out his true formation and new playing style with the free roaming players either gone or shifted to their true positions. Hopefully he figures something out soon. Think he had a defensive lineup out bc arsenal were flying games prior while he knew utd weren’t at their best

    NH

  4. Sam Hiser
    August 31, 2009 at 8:24 pm | | Reply


    A scything assessment. I will be watching.

    Carving out the striker role for Rooney will be telling. He must not try too hard or over-compensate; and Berba will play a large part in making Wayne’s 40 goals possible, either this year or next.

    Otherwise, look for Utd to exit the Big Four in utter confusion & blame-mongering.

  5. SirKev
    SirKev
    August 31, 2009 at 9:03 pm | | Reply


    As a United fan, I still believe in Berba and his ability to change a game. Most of the problem just stems from perception. He is one of those players who seems to glide around the field so people think he’s lazy or loafing when in fact he’s just moving to open areas. Compound that style with the complete opposite (Tevez) and the British notion of “endeavor” and you have a bad mixture. If he is allowed to just roam the front 1/3 and let Rooney run around he will match his assist total and increase his goal totals from last year. I am less worried about Berba more concerned about the lack of steel in the midfield and the disappearance of Anderson.

    1. wllmhll
      August 31, 2009 at 9:58 pm | | Reply


      i have to agree, fletcher might be able run riot around the pitch stopping oppositions playing their game but there’s not enough creativity in midfield without anderson there.

    2. Ford Prefect
      Ford Prefect
      September 1, 2009 at 2:58 am | | Reply


      Couldn’t agree more–Have never understood the fixation on guys that run madly around the pitch, and calling it “fantastic work rate” a’la Tevez–What good does it do to charge around if nothing comes of it?–Completely agree that Berba is misunderstood b/c he moves effortlessly on the pitch, sliding into open space, etc.–He has incredible skill on the ball, and would be a world class distributor if SAF would play him in that role

      1. LI Matt
        LI Matt
        September 1, 2009 at 5:09 am | | Reply


        Have never understood the fixation on guys that run madly around the pitch, and calling it “fantastic work rate” a’la Tevez–What good does it do to charge around if nothing comes of it?

        That’s the English for you. This game was born during the Industrial Revolution, and to this day they think of playing the game as a factory job. “He’s a hard worker” is the ultimate compliment.

        And then they wonder why their national team can’t win anything.

        1. Gaz
          Gaz
          September 1, 2009 at 8:28 am | | Reply


          Maybe you’re right.

          I’ll take a hard working player for the whole game over a miracle-once-a-game player any day.

  6. coachie ballgames
    August 31, 2009 at 11:02 pm | | Reply


    you make a persuasive case. I just don’t have that much faith in berba’s spirit. you’re definitely right about one thing, United’s midfield is absolutely in shambles right now.

  7. ish
    ish
    August 31, 2009 at 11:09 pm | | Reply


    in the wigan game, berba was a machine on the pitch. His touches and flicks were amazing. He has the best first touch in the world, by having such amazing first touch and vision he is able to open up defenses. His strength and speed allows him to drag defenders away from rooney.

    Berbatov is a great targetman, targetmen dont always have to be the scorers, they need to be able to handle anything that comes to them and to set up goals with it. Thats why berba’s assist rate is so high. He is played as the central man to set up the midfielders and rooney. Perhaps rooney would operate best as the second striker/roaming attacking midfielder. Something akin to gerrard or anelka this season. That then allows fletcher and carrick to operate a bit deeper and come in when required. Carrick has excellent passing and fletcher is probably one of the better ball winners in the EPL now. The wingers can spread the defense and open up the play centrally. Honestly the tactic is essentially a 4231 what england play but more effective because united have better wide players.
    Berbatov is most important to this tactic though, if he gets injured then i doubt owen could fill his boots. Owen did best at Newcastle when viduka was fit.

  8. Drew
    Drew
    August 31, 2009 at 11:13 pm | | Reply


    I think he is a good player, just not worth £32.5m. Then again, I don’t think many of the players today are worth what is being paid for them.

  9. Thomas
    Thomas
    September 1, 2009 at 5:27 pm | | Reply


    I still believe Fergy knew Ronaldo was on his way out, and he knew he had one more season with him.

    I thin the team is going to be structured around Rooney and Berba now…obviously.

    Carrick looks a bit shell shocked and the space other United players were afforded due to CR7 is obvious.

    Fletcher should have 2-3 goals this season, but he’s been terrible in front of goal. But I still think he’s contributing very solidly.

    I think United will be dangerous this year. But they wont win the title. One thing that seems to be gone a bit is the swagger. Last year, they knew Ronaldo would bail them out, they didn’t seem to panick as much. This year, they look like they have lost a bit of that confidence….Also, their defense needs to get healthy.

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