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  1. Michael Tan
    Michael Tan
    July 16, 2009 at 11:12 am | | Reply


    haha, biased indeed? … every perceived classic’s a pool win over the devils … MU shd be so honored. Its as if there are no other good teams or games around … are the devils really that good? Guess so … other fans might disagree but certainly not Ethan. :)

  2. Ethan Armstrong
    Ethan Armstrong
    July 16, 2009 at 11:39 am | | Reply


    Michael,

    Two of my nominees for “perceived” classic status were fixtures against Manchester City and Portsmouth (links above). I also said in a comment that many neutrals would probably pick the 4-4 match against Arsenal over my choices. The wins over Chelsea were great, but since Liverpool didn’t concede a goal they didn’t fit into my personal framework of a classic. All four of the matches I discussed involved Liverpool coming from behind. The Middlesbrough match with Carra and Gerrard’s late goals and the Wigan match where Zaki scored two and Liverpool came from behind twice were close contenders. But the four matches I discussed meant the most to me. The first two times Rafa beat Manchester United in the league certainly played an important part. I never hid my bias and I made it clear context played a part in my choices.

  3. Spenser
    July 16, 2009 at 11:39 am | | Reply


    this was probably my game of the season. it helps that you’re writing this series as a Liverpool fan, that makes it that much more enjoyable

  4. Silad
    Silad
    July 16, 2009 at 11:56 am | | Reply


    This was definately my game of the season as well. For sheer happiness only winning a trophy beats it.
    I think you do give the Manc’s too much respect though. Although when you watch it live your bottles going but when you watch it again knowing the result, you can see how easy we won. Apart from Park’s dive (watch it in slow mo, he’s on his was down before he makes impact with Pepe’s arms) they didn’t threaten.
    United have/had a better squad than us but our best 11 beats there best 11 hands down.

  5. Vernon
    Vernon
    July 16, 2009 at 11:57 am | | Reply


    How about the 4-4 Liverpool – Chelsea Champion League match aka The Game of the Century? That’s more of a classic that your four choices combined.

  6. dkptiger
    dkptiger
    July 16, 2009 at 12:14 pm | | Reply


    i dont see how thats anyone match of the season but man united haters and scousers. perhaps a personal blog would be better suited.. your opinion should come out of your articles, see the gaffer. but to be unapologetically biased and not even make an attempt to talk to a wide audience is ignorant. i frequent websites and blogs for my club, in order to get that focused perspective, but even if thats your favorite match.. perhaps try and convince us rather than just say why it was good for a scouser.

    1. Ethan Armstrong
      Ethan Armstrong
      July 16, 2009 at 1:10 pm | | Reply


      dkptiger,

      Surely there’s a truckload of articles out there discussing the best matches of the season from an objective standpoint. I was attempting something different with a discussion of the fan’s perspective. This meant putting my bias up front and talking with my passion of a fan. My hope was there would be more discussion in the comments with other’s volunteering their own picks as supporters.

      I thank those who took me up on that invitation.

      I tried to convince with details of the action and describing that emotional journey of the highs and lows of these matches. Perhaps if I’d left out the club names and players names it would appeal to more people. In the end I think if one comes to these articles with a bias against Liverpool or Gerrard or Benitez or whatever, then it’s difficult to grab your attention. As I’ve alluded to before: I don’t think Spurs supporters are giving each other copies of Fever Pitch for birthday presents.

      So the articles are not for everyone (and perhaps I shouldn’t have ended with the most biased choice). But I hope all four pieces have a broad appeal, because anyone open to reading about another club can appreciate this kind of ride even if Liverpool are not their club. I enjoy Fever Pitch and articles in FourFourTwo or When Saturday Comes that are about players from other clubs. I hope this kind of writing can have some appeal in this area.

      As ever, the door is open in this comment section for other voices to share their idea of the classic supporter’s match.

  7. steven g. lougainis
    steven g. lougainis
    July 16, 2009 at 12:17 pm | | Reply


    How about the two 0-0 draws with Stoke CIty? Or the loss to Boro? Those were classic Liverpool right there. Real classic matches are the ones that win you the league… and unfortunately the scouse haven’t had one of those in about two decades.

  8. Bren
    July 16, 2009 at 12:21 pm | | Reply


    MICHAEL TAN @ least we didn`t bring out a video of our win against man u after each win.

  9. Pat
    Pat
    July 16, 2009 at 12:49 pm | | Reply


    So I have to admit to having my own bias as an Everton fan. (Oddly enough, I’ve never felt any animosity to Liverpool. I know, heresy for a Toffee, but there it is. The Red Devils or the Newcastle Hacks now…)

    Seriously though, no offense, flaming, or trolling intended. :-)

    My favorite game from last season occured on March 21st though, at Craven Cottage. Fulham’s 2-0 upset of Manchester United was as tense a match I’ve seen in a while. The early red card and penalty gave Fulham the lead, but this was Manchester United we were talking about! Surely they would come back! Schwarzer, Hangeland, and Konchesky of course had other ideas. Staunch defending, hope growing as the clock wound on. Suddenly, the counter was on and Zoltan Gera (the sub!) scored on an absolutely ugly-yet-beautiful move. Followed a minute later by none other than Rooney being sent off for a temper tantrum (a second opposing red!) and the champions finishing their collapse on the day.

    Just my two cents. ;-)

  10. Joaq
    Joaq
    July 16, 2009 at 12:54 pm | | Reply


    This match was definitely a classic for pool supporters. Not a classic match per say, but a very memorable one for the Scouse. Nice article Ethan. I have to say, Part 1 is by far my favorite. Like this one a lot better. Keep it up lad.

    1. Ethan Armstrong
      Ethan Armstrong
      July 16, 2009 at 1:15 pm | | Reply


      Joaq,

      Thanks for giving Part 4 a chance.

      Best,

      Ethan

      1. Joaq
        Joaq
        July 16, 2009 at 1:17 pm | | Reply


        Of course lad.

  11. AJunky
    AJunky
    July 16, 2009 at 1:54 pm | | Reply


    Ethan Armstrong!!

    My gf says she would kiss your hands if ever she meets you, although I am the RED and she a (slow and painful) cricket fan, but still!!

    She likes your writing style…. and I? I Love it, absolutely Love it! ;)

    ps: the Torres goal description, felt like I am reliving it again!! :)

  12. dkptiger
    dkptiger
    July 16, 2009 at 3:00 pm | | Reply


    ethan, you simply dont get it. every football fan can appreciate Fever Pitch for the passion and struggle we all experience when we support our team. for me, it was of little consequence that he was talking about arsenal. likewise, i think blog writers are allowed to wear their support on their sleeves, however they must understand that the reader may find their “passion” nothing more than a blinkered opinion of someone with far too much time and too little sense.

    i ask all supporters, think back, what is the best match youve EVER seen. im sure you can come up with 5 that involve your favorite club. now.. think about it even harder, not just the first to come to mind. the 4 goal stunner, the comeback, the unlikeliest of hero, the dodgy decision. it is the mind of this reader, that the storyline off the pitch (league table, rivalry, trophies won and lost) should never make the match. it can simply take a match from being one of the best, to legendary status.

    oh and to note, my bias against liverpool should be considered when you write too. if you are truly a gifted writer, you should challenge my bias and anticipate my criticism. but i remember the build up to the match, the highs and lows of emotion, and the results that followed and how it made me feel. it was a very important match. however never in a million years would i consider it a great match.

  13. bigtfw
    bigtfw
    July 16, 2009 at 4:23 pm | | Reply


    Just another Liverpool push over from EPL Talk. No wonder you guys are so against WSD when all you do is suck LFC and LFCNY’s C**K.

    Sorry but it is the truth, constantly on here you guys have been all about Liverpool, a team that hasnt won and EPL title or a league title for that matter for 19 years.

  14. T-Bull
    T-Bull
    July 16, 2009 at 6:12 pm | | Reply


    Liverpool is one of many storied clubs in a the upper tier of English football, and there is nothing wrong with being bias towards LFC , Chelsea , the Gooners, or Man U. ( you can’t spell ManUre without it).
    I agree with the comment that part 4 is hardly a classic , unless you are a Red or you hate Man U. The City match or the Northwest Derby at Anfield are more worthy than this one.
    As a Red, I thoroughly enjoyed the series, and I look forward to a new and exciting season of EPL.
    Maybe the Red Devils could loan the Barclay’s trophy to another club this year, and maybe one day Man. U. can have a “5″ on the sleeve of their Champions League kit.

    Love to all of those passionate about their football…..
    T-Bull

  15. matt
    matt
    July 16, 2009 at 7:40 pm | | Reply


    a favorite image

  16. Matt
    July 16, 2009 at 8:21 pm | | Reply


    Stopped reading at the “offsides” part. How can someone be offsides? Do they split themselves both sides of the defender?

    The player is offside, not offsides.

  17. Shakira
    Shakira
    July 17, 2009 at 1:56 am | | Reply


    I fail to see how this is a classic unless you are a Liverpool supporter. Sure it was a good win for the vermin but how this trumps the 4-4 against Chelsea is beyond me.

    1. Jerry
      Jerry
      July 17, 2009 at 8:49 am | | Reply


      “a good win for the vermin”

      Nice. That comment just oozes class and dignity.

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