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  1. Brett
    Brett
    July 28, 2010 at 8:22 am | | Reply


    The irony of this rule is that while it was aimed at clubs like Arsenal who seem to rarely field English players,they are not affected at all. Arsenal currently has only 16 players who are not “home grown.” Players such as Fabregas, Clichy and Bendtner, to name a few, are “home grown” even though they are Spanish, French, and Danish.

  2. McParland
    McParland
    July 28, 2010 at 8:53 am | | Reply


    Yres they are very over priced and dont forget over paid .I

  3. McParland
    July 28, 2010 at 9:00 am | | Reply


    Oer priced and certainly overpaid.I read the comments of that fool who has just joined Man City Toura? or somehing like that .He is apparently on£200, 000 aweek and he had the gaul to say i hope you do NOT think i have joined Man City for the money its because i like playing football,if thats the case join Stoke City for £30,000 a week must think we were all born yesterday what a croc of shit his comments were .LOL

  4. Poker Rakeback
    July 28, 2010 at 9:13 am | | Reply


    The rule is a joke, cesc fabragas is considered home grown, when will he be playing for England?
    In fact under the new rules Arsenal make rule quite easily without hardly having an English player in their team.

    Home Grown – play in England for 3 seasons before you are 21.

    Any kid no matter where he is from will be home grown if he has spent 3 yrs in England before turning 21.

    How does this improve the England team? or even mean we will see more English players coming through, the rule is nothing more than a token gesture.

    1. Sir Guy
      Sir Guy
      July 28, 2010 at 11:00 am | | Reply


      Couldn’t agree more, Rakeback. The rule, as written, is ludicrous and an example of what usually happens when you start quota tinkering. Fuzzy thinking leads to unintended consequences or, rather, garbage in, garbage out.

    2. Dave C
      Dave C
      July 28, 2010 at 11:20 am | | Reply


      Agreed, the rule is ridiculous.

  5. McParland
    July 28, 2010 at 9:24 am | | Reply


    Have to agree that our national teams realy suffered by the influx of teams using over seas players to further their premership chances while jeopordising spelling?the England team.The over seas players get regular football compaired to home grown lads thus assisting their national teams should they be chosen to play.So i fully agree with teams being made to abide by using home grown players and any club or manager who does not agree or comform F**K them Off ASP for the good of the game and certainly for the good of our national team.

    1. Dave C
      Dave C
      July 28, 2010 at 11:23 am | | Reply


      Not sure if it’s that simple – it’s not like England were one of the great world football powers until those foreigners came along…

  6. Gaz Hunt
    Gaz Hunt
    July 28, 2010 at 11:09 am | | Reply


    This is obviously a step-up process. They’ll start with 8 “home-grown” players and step it up to something like 6 English players and 3 “home-grown” players.

    Also, I believe that teams can only have 25 squad members over the age of 21 and as many under the age of 21 as they want (correct me if I’m wrong). This makes young talent even more important – a team can either put 25 veterans on the sheet or say 18 veterans and 10 emerging talents.

    1. Brian
      Brian
      July 28, 2010 at 11:50 am | | Reply


      I agree regarding young talent, Gaz. If we’re complaining about how Arsenal already complies with the new rule without contributing to England’s side, it’s just an example of how Wenger’s relentless scouting, which focuses on young players in lower-level leagues, has put him ahead of the curve. Maybe the focus on younger talent will also help rein in other teams’ costs: better to spend £1.5 or £4 million for a promising youngster that you can make “home-grown” than to spend £15 or £22 million for a talented player in his late twenties from one of the major leagues.

      1. Gaz Hunt
        Gaz Hunt
        July 28, 2010 at 12:13 pm | | Reply


        I appreciate the agreement but seriously… that’s what the rule is right now as far as I can tell. Again, correct me if I’m wrong.

        Eight home-grown players at each club and a maximum of 25 squad members over the age of 21 (but you can have as many under 21s as you want).

        My point is that this rule(s) will slowly get more “strict” / English-centric in order to siphon better English talent out of the league. This is just the first step.

        1. Karol
          Karol
          July 28, 2010 at 12:39 pm | | Reply


          Gaz,

          they use the term “homegrown” because a quota of English players would be against European law. There won`t be a step-up process.

          1. Poker Rakeback
            July 28, 2010 at 1:22 pm |


            This is true, they can’t just say 8 English ‘homegrown’ players, they would have to open it up to every nationality. They could have made it harder though, say 4-5 years years in England before you are 21.
            They also don’t need to accept young players from countries outside the European Union and therefore zero non European union players should be classed as ‘homegrown’.

  7. tonyspeed
    tonyspeed
    July 28, 2010 at 12:12 pm | | Reply


    i love the home-grown rule. it just means we buy the calf and not the cow. ;)
    16 year old brasilians in england. woo hoo

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