21 Responses

  1. Avi
    Avi
    January 5, 2010 at 8:29 am | | Reply


    Just watch the game and don’t be a tite-ass.

  2. Mike
    Mike
    January 5, 2010 at 10:45 am | | Reply


    Stop winning…. This is United States of America, the american anouncers are welcome to cover matches for their american audiance. British expat are not the only ones watching soccer in America. So obviousy they shoudn’t have special treatment.

    You complain about everything. I doubt an american in GB will complain about basketball broadcasting being different than what is provided in the states.

    Are american broascasters also allowed to comment on Tennis? Or do we need the brits for that one too.

    It’s not all about you! Every other post you are winning about something.

    1. The Gaffer
      January 5, 2010 at 11:14 am | | Reply


      Mike, the word is “whining” and if you’re aiming the criticism at me, I didn’t write the article.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  3. Louis
    Louis
    January 5, 2010 at 11:20 am | | Reply


    Here’s a mild example: “I agree on their form, John. Just last week [team] played away to [team] and came away with a result.” Pardon me, I don’t mean to be a stickler for details, but would that result be a win, loss or draw? I don’t have time to track all the scores.

    I don’t know if you have to be English or not to understand that ‘coming away with a result’ would without any doubt imply a win. I genuinely can’t think of any situation where anybody would call a loss ‘a result’. wow.

  4. scott
    scott
    January 5, 2010 at 11:32 am | | Reply


    Are announcers for ANY sport “certified?” I’ve never heard of such a thing.

    And I think sports announcers would be classified as journalists in the US and I don’t know if a certification system run by a foreign entity (i.e. UEFA) would be acceptable under the US Constitutional system…I’m giving this way more thought than it deserves.

    Argh…I love football, but I’m seriously getting tired of “fans” complaining about every little nit-picky thing regarding US coverage of international football.

    1. The Gaffer
      January 5, 2010 at 11:39 am | | Reply


      Scott, I don’t think Noel is criticizing the US coverage of international football. He’s criticizing co-commentators, most of whom are from England, and are the same co-commentators all of us around the world hear (for the most part).

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

      1. scott
        scott
        January 5, 2010 at 11:51 am | | Reply


        point taken…though there are bad color commentators across the sports universe.

        People either love or hate Dick Vitale, Lee Corso, etc. I just think Noel is taking this way too seriously.

        He’s complaining about diction? I guess I expect to have a little trouble understanding someone from a different country with a different accent. I may not understand every word coming out of their mouth, but that’s part of the beauty of watching foreign coverage of sports, news, tv, etc.

        Yes, some of the UK accents (and Australian, South African, French, Russian, Spanish, Italian, Chinese, etc…) can be difficult to decipher for those of us (in the US and I’m sure across the world), but why should we expect those folks to adjust their style…I’m sure somewhere in the world there are people who have trouble with American accents too.

        Personally, I find part of the glory of football is hearing the diversity of languages used from around the world and their accents in their languages and in English. I’m a Liverpool fan and I work extra hard to understand Rafa and Torres, and especially Carragher and Gerrard…I certainly don’t expect them to change themselves so I can understand.

        If you want to understand the world…it is you who must exert effort, not the world.

  5. Juan-John
    Juan-John
    January 5, 2010 at 11:34 am | | Reply


    The EPL broadcasters should take a lesson from the NFL, which has a “finishing school,” so to speak, for former players looking to transition into the media analyst role.

    1. Richard
      Richard
      January 5, 2010 at 12:29 pm | | Reply


      That’d make them all carbon-copies of each other and they’d all be equally dull.

  6. Paul Bestall
    Paul Bestall
    January 5, 2010 at 11:45 am | | Reply


    There is a whole list of dreadful British pundits who have jobs purely based on the fact they played professional football. Most of them have a job on speaking English that English people can understand, never mind the rest of the world.

  7. Richard
    Richard
    January 5, 2010 at 12:25 pm | | Reply


    Wah wah wah.

  8. ovalball
    ovalball
    January 5, 2010 at 12:51 pm | | Reply


    I unnerstand your point you know but like there are crap color commentators everywhere you know? Last week the guy was like you know really really irritating so I just you know muted the sound until there was you know like a goal or sumthin.

    Former athletes are just that…former athletes. Some are better than others. I’ve actually gotten to like Warren Barton so there’s hope for everyone.

  9. Redmaniac
    Redmaniac
    January 5, 2010 at 5:11 pm | | Reply


    Good grief what are you looking for in a color man, spotless elocution or illumination of the finer points of the game. Frankly I like the accents and I find that most of the color guys on TV to be very educational and instructive. Some people find John Madden’s grunting and growling bothersome I find him to be enilightening. I would think you find something more significant to complain out regarding EPL.

  10. barry
    barry
    January 6, 2010 at 3:10 am | | Reply


    To Noel S. William – unfortunately these “commentators” have about 0.00001 seconds to figure out what to say, unlike yourself who has the comfort of his own computer, access to thesaurus.com and about 30 minutes to articulate his magnificent thoughts into a piece aimed at nothing more than self-gratuity. *thesaurus.com may have been consulted* :) )

  11. Noel
    Noel
    January 6, 2010 at 6:19 am | | Reply


    I disagree with barr: the author’s thoughts are interesting and pertinent (there’s that thesaurus again) but not really magnificent.
    As someone who has played a lot and watches a lot of English soccer, I just love it, overall. That’s why I don’t want lazy color analysts solely relying on their playing experience — they are privileged to share their insights with a vast audience and should pay the piper, so to speak.
    With coverage beaming out to 152 countries, this is not insignificant (comment 13).
    The EPL is “fan”tastic, and given their high standards they would like to see improvement in media commentary of matches. Who wouldn’t? I like the “finishing school” idea presented in comment 8 — we all know many of these players-cum-pundits could use a little refinement before daring to blabber in front of millions of viewers. Come to think of it, some could’ve used “finishing school” on the pitch, too.

  12. Noel
    Noel
    January 6, 2010 at 6:36 am | | Reply


    Louis (comment 4). Huh? Your analysis begs the question, so smug too.
    Many Premier League managers/players/fans who “escape” from one of the so-called top 4 clubs with a draw would consider that a bonus. It may only be one point, but they “came away with a result.”
    Indeed, there is doubt that a “result” is a win.

  13. barry
    barry
    January 6, 2010 at 11:50 am | | Reply


    Noel – The “magnificent” part was sarcastic, simply thrown in for the sake of it :)

  14. Christopher
    Christopher
    January 6, 2010 at 1:06 pm | | Reply


    I had started a topic over at AVS Forums about HD coverage of Soccer in the US, and it quickly turned to the poor quality of sportscaster coverage (remember, we’re talking american coverage). Granted, most comments about the sportscasters were from a few years ago now (but the thread is still going! This Fox HD & Setanta news is exciting), but it’s still relevant: there’s no reason why we can’t have quality, inciteful commentary along with the game we love to watch.
    Personally, I enjoy Tommy Smyth’s enthusiasm (I’m sure I spelled his name wrong, but whatever) for example. I agree with some of the other commentators: you have to think fast when you’re a commentator, most of us would fumble this horribly if we were in their shoes. So I appreciate that it’s hard work, and takes skill.
    It could be worse. We could have John Madden as a commentator.

    AVS forum thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=865233

    John Madden quotes: http://thinkexist.com/quotes/john_madden/ (my favorite: “Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they’re bigger than everybody else, and that’s what makes them the biggest guys on the field.”)

  15. vinnie
    vinnie
    January 6, 2010 at 9:49 pm | | Reply


    for the love of football, just enjoy the game already! some of us can’t even subscribe to pay-tv to watch EPL

    back on topic. GENERALLY, commentators were not footballers and could make use of some thoughts of an ex-player to look at certain matters from a different point of view, both literally and metaphorically.

    sports commentary is an art, if licensing and standard is required, there will be a boring, identical template all co-commentators use

  16. John
    John
    January 7, 2010 at 10:02 am | | Reply


    Great post. I agree with you 100%. I think they need to ban the Scots first.

  17. Don
    Don
    September 2, 2010 at 3:32 pm | | Reply


    I wonder if there’s technology sophisticated enough to give us a button on the remote that would allow us the option of muting out the commentators and just having the sound of the game. That would please everyone. I would cut out all tennis commentators on the big networks.

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