Besides, we already have the Champions’ League, so we already get to see the best clbs take each other on…

As regards to the pitch at Wigan, you make a good point in stating that everyone has to play on it. I’ll see that and raise you one- a bad pitch doesn’t bother me at all. Really, it only adds another element of danger, and might open up scoring for either side.

Arsenal play a very precise, attacking brand of football- so their game does take a knock when playing on soggy, uneven ground…but a plugging, defense-oriented team would also be at a disadvantage playing on a short, fast pitch- don’t these kind of cancel each other out?

Either way, Arsenal should be able to beat Wigan on an pot-holed asphalt pitch littered with ball bearings- they need to stop making excuses and start beating people.

As a United fan, I empathize with you, as we’ve lost a few matches that we should’ve won easily- but roll with it, man- it’s part of the game! I’m looking forward to a close, exciting finish, and wish you Gunners the worst of luck!

How condescending and elitist. If you know your history, and your comments indicate you don’t, you would remember the “Big Four” was the “Big Five” not so long ago, consisting of Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Spurs and ManU. Note the differences, and note that nothing is permanent, and no one team should enjoy the divine rights of kings. Creating a Euro Super League would mean arbitrarily including and excluding teams purely based on their status at one single moment in time, a time when coincidentally your beloved Arsenal happen to be in the top four of the Premier League. But Arsenal have had their lean years, as do all clubs, so what if a Super League was created in the 60s or early 80s, when Arsenal didn’t achieve anything of note? Like poor Derby now, who was once led by Brian Clough, almost all the way to the European Cup final? You would see them cut adrift purely because you personally don’t like them?

As for your list of English teams outside the big four – it’s a bit arbitrary, isn’t it? Hardly a case for a super league.

A super league may be inevitable, but only at the insistence of chairmen of European football’s richest clubs. Do you think they are doing this for the fans, because fans have a preference for “classy settings?” No, it’s for money. Not for the good of the game.

Alex Hleb said: “the lower the stadium attendances, the more likely it seems that the big four clubs will start planning for the superleague to happen.”

Championship games have higher attendances than Serie A. That’s right, each week, tens of thousands of people pay to see the likes of Scunthorpe, Southampton and Stoke – more than Juventus, Inter and “classy” AC Milan. I don’t think they’d be lining up to support a super league. Do you?

Alex Hleb said: “but its all about business and the fans of the big four would not mind to see those games and they wont regret not having to travel up to the cold and grey towns of northern england.”

So football is all about business? Is that why you watch it? Aren’t ManU and Liverpool in the “cold, grey north?” Besides, the big four already have the Champions League, which, if you’ll remember, was reduced in 2003 from two group phases to one. Why? Because no one wanted to spend good money trekking across Europe or even across town to watch one meaningless game after another against the “big” teams from Bulgaria, Germany or Denmark.

I’ll let you have the last word, as this was a post about astro turf after all. But if you take time to continue defending the harebrained super league idea, you may want to address football’s roots – local and regional rivalries that just don’t translate when teams from England are playing teams from, say, Spain. Also, you may want address how Wenger’s Arsenal often seem to drop points when playing teams from the north east. Otherwise, it would seem that you would welcome a super league purely so Arsenal didn’t have to fight for a top spot by spending a cold, wet Wednesday evening in unglamorous Wigan or Blackburn or Bolton. Which, incidentally, every other bloody Premier League team has to do, too!

teams(besides the top 4) i like to have games against-

-man city
-everton
-spuds
-aston villa
-west ham
-portsmouth
-newcastle
-reading
-fulham
and ill also name championship teams for you just to point out that i wouldnt mind seeing games against them
-charlton
-watford
-southampton
-crystal palace
-cardiff
-wolves
-preston north end
-leicester
all very intersting teams, ill mention some league one clubs too that would be intersting to play
-swansea
-carlisle
-nott forest
-brighton
-leeds
some league two as well
-milton keynes(wimbledon)
-barnet
-accrington stanley
-wycombe

-so its not about disliking playing teams in england, its just about hating to play blackburn, wigan, derby, middlesborough, sunderland, bolton, and birmingham.

im not pro uefa superleague, but it wouldnt be a bad thing if it happened. of course this league would have to have promotion and relegation for me to be for it.

but there are teams that i enjoy watching other than arsenal and find games against them would be very interesting. especially derby matches. london derbys are always welcomed.

what i am trying to say by saying that fans yearn for a superleague is that we would like the classy settings like san siro, and others. the muggier the pitches get, the more players come out with broken legs because of teams like wigan and birmingham, and the lower the stadium attendances, the more likely it seems that the big four clubs will start planning for the superleague to happen. im sorry but its all about business and the fans of the big four would not mind to see those games and they wont regret not having to travel up to the cold and grey towns of northern england. its just much more nicer to think of travelling to milan and barcelona.

but face it, superleague is inevitable. its going to happen within the next 30 years.

Really? In the 30 years I have supported English football, I don’t think I have met a single fan, of the so-called “big four” or otherwise, who yearns for a European super league. It’s a supremely daft idea akin to Game 39 – the kind of idea embraced by “fans” with short memories or a poor understanding of football history. Or the kind of “fan” who lives thousands of miles away from North London and thinks a game between Arsenal and Weder Bremen would be more exciting that, say, a North London derby or an away day up north to Manchester City or Everton.